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Can a $100,000 online investment or is it too risky?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by Leodare, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Leodare

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    Hi everyone, to all Black Hat World members, I will like to seek everyone's honest opinion and advice on this matter. I've been through lots of up and down in my life and currently, I'm at the lowest point in my life. I know I only just registered on this forum last year so I know I am very irrelevant to all of you. I just want to say that even though I only just signed up 6 months ago, I've been lurking on Black Hat World since 2008 and I have thought of registering here and be part of this community to participate in thediscussion. I've always envied the senior members here but I'm afraid of getting judged. I've been on many internet marketing forms - DP, BHW, WF..etc and what I like about BHW is that BHW seems to offer a freedom of speech and people at least the majority seem more friendly and helpful. Hell, I posted a wrong thread in WF and I got permanently banned. The knowledge here is unreal and all these years, I've been reading a lot on this site, absorbing as much knowledge as I can and putting all these knowledge to great skills in my work. I will like to thank some of the users here who made this possible: expressfans, leena, smileyatmwins to name a few. I'm sure there are many more but these are the ones at the top off my head now.

    Alright so back to my problem. Recently, I made a terrible investment. I lost about $100,000 in an offline business two months ago. I was actually advised by my family and friends not to go with it but I still decided to go for it and ended up losing everything. Yes, every single dollar of my $100,000 investment.I know you're probably thinking right now "This guy deserves it!"...yes I know I deserved it for not listening to my family andfriends' advice back then. That's why I've been working so hard for these pasttwo months to try to recoup back my losses bit by bit. Now, I'm ready to investa huge sum of money into an online business. Due to my sheer stupidity (trustme, the $100,000 investment I lost was the worst thing ever, I bet none of youcould ever imagine what it was) of losing $100,000, I seriously don't mindinvesting $100,000 again but I will like to seek everyone's advice if an onlinebusiness is sustainable? I am not going to invest this $100,000 all in onebusiness but over a prolonged period on many online platforms like buyingwebsites and social media development which I will go into details in my nextparagraph. $100,00 is obviously a big sum of money to me and I really don'twish to see every single dollar of my investment being lost again like myprevious investment but even if I were to lose it (god forbid), it's not theend of the world for me.

    Now I will like to go into details of the two main online platforms I will liketo invest my money.

    1. Buying websites - I've seen on many major internet marketing forums how somepeople could earn up to $xxxx monthly on autopilot through their websites andthese are the kind of people I always envied. I go on Flippa and I see websitesbeing sold for $xx,xxx and being guaranteed for a profit of $xxxx and some even$xx,xxx after a few months. Best part of this business is most of them are onautopilot. I've always been very skeptical of Flippa and I definitely have thebudget to buy websites for $xxxx or even $xx,xxx but no matter what, websitesare still an intangible item and I just don't feel safe about it.

    2. Social Media Development - I've been racking my brain for the past few days how to make my campaign social and convert my page likes to real time customers.

    I've been doing lots of research, goingdown to the library, googling and reading every internet marketing forums butstill I can't seem to find a breakthrough especially extracting the page likes.

    If anyone can help me out with this, please feel free to post here or PM me.I'm always open to any business opportunity with anyone. If you're asocial media marketing guru, please contact me! I will be more than happy tohear from you. So what do you guys think? Would you invest $100,000 into anonline business? Can this be a sustainable business with a guaranteed success or is it too risky?

    Can a mod please edit my thread title to "Can a $100,000 online investment be a success or is it too risky?". Sorry I left out the words in between.
     
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  2. Jssom

    Jssom Regular Member

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    There is no guaranteed success on the internet world.
     
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  3. Leodare

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    Guess I worded it badly, not meaning guaranteed success but is there a higher chance of a success?
     
  4. artizhay

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    If you are unaware of the risk factors or how to mitigate the risk of any investment, you should not be considering it in the slightest. You clearly don't know if this is a good investment, so why in the world consider it? You say you "don't mind" investing $100,000 again, but you should, even if the value was just $1. If you don't care about your investment, your investment is far less likely to come to fruition.

    The best way to mitigate risk is to gain experience in what you're investing. In the online world, hopefully you know most of us go through far more failures than successes. That means, currently, your chance of success is no more than 49%. Say right now, based on your minimal experience, your chance of producing a positive return is 25%. You're asking if you should blindly invest a large sum into that 25%.

    The answer is most obviously no, and if you cannot see this, you should not be making investments.

    If you wanted to make a wise investment, you would be reducing risk with experience. Much like websites split-test various features to see what works best for them or an investment firm hedging its position, you should be split-testing your investments to see which path is the smartest to follow. Rather than throwing $100,000 at something and hoping all works out, make fractional investments in many online ventures and track their returns to see which general idea or field is producing your highest yields.

    After this, you'll substantially reduce your risk. Even if you raise your probability of a positive return to 70% on a $100,000 investment, you've increased the profitability chances of your investment by 180% by learning about what you're investing in.
     
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  5. jamesjk1

    jamesjk1 Senior Member

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    My advice: Invest only that which you can afford to COMFORTABLY lose if things go downhill. Do your due diligence, invest wisely, follow the above 'rule' and you can't go too far wrong.
    Best of luck man - Jon.
     
  6. BlingFiles

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    First off I wouldn't invest it all in one single project but sort it out in as much projects as I can, then push more money to the winner projects.

    Secondly as the others said you should gain some more experience about the IM game before investing a huge amount of money.
     
  7. phirex

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    Buy dogecoins
    hold
    sell when you tripled (should be less than 1 month)
    good luck
    P.S. dont hold me responsible if it fails. :)
     
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  8. MafiaBoss

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    If you know what you are doing and risks involved than yes you can make any amount of investment.
     
  9. akshdalal

    akshdalal Regular Member

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    Why the hell invest in dogecoin. Everyone invested and waited for the 'Halving'. Price did rise but now it's back to where it was earlier. It's a waste of money to invest into something in which all are putting their money in. Do you really think if all the people in this world invest in dogecooin, they all will be millionare? Never.

    Why I am concerned? Well, while whole loads of people were busy investing in 'Doge', I put my money in 'HBN' coins. And guess what the value of my investment has tripled in last two days.

    I am not saying 'Doge', will never give you profit, but I want to say there are other cryptocurrencies which can give you quick profit.

    Just one thing, analyze things and the invest. Don't move with the Crowd, there is high possibility you will fail! :)
     
  10. phirex

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    Every coin goes up and down, the talks about halving were just to get more people to invest, of course if everyone invests in dogecoin not all of them will be millionares, but at least early holders will.
    anyway, i still think DOGE is in a good stage to invest, especially @ current price when its dipped.
    good luck with HBN coins.
     
  11. pulkitseo

    pulkitseo Senior Member

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    expect nothing n work hard...always have plan B n C incase u fail
    coz if u fail u won't feel the pain...but if u succeed a little u will be more than happy..
    go for kill..i will try to help with social media ..if in-case i see u failing ..just to bring u back on track..
    best of luck mate
     
  12. akshdalal

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    I just wanted to tell that there is not only 'Doge', but other crypto's too. :)
    Doge might be good investment in short term, but there aren't any solid proofs left to support, since 'halving' didn't have much affect. :)
     
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    What the fuck is HBN coin? Never heard of it and don't want to.
     
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    Never forced to tell you about it. :)

    I am not promoting the coin, but the way to not invest blindly.
     
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    Wait a minute,let me get this straight, you have lost 100k and worked hard for two months and now you have another 100k to invest..Im not sure if i have missed anything but there is your answer right there,just keep doing what you did to get another 100k..​Its that simple :)
     
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    First of all, don't ask your questions here. I think that will decrease the chance of losing money by 50% nowadays. BHW isn't all this and that anymore.
     
  17. binaryking

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    Yes, it's way too risky!
     
  18. OrangeNRG

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    It's very easy to lose money on the internet. You have to gain experience and invest small amounts like everybody else said. You can multiply that amount if you find something good and commit yourself to it.
     
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    Hah, just looked it up, it's hobo nickels "the street currency"....

     
  20. albimorkal

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    As one of the poster's said, do not invest it all on a single project. No offenses and since you didn't go over all the details is very hard to really know if you were at fault for losing the money but; investing $100,000 at once on a single project even offline seems a bit too excessive specially if you couldn't afford to lose it.

    In any case since you are thinking of devoting $100k to business ventures my suggestion is this: do not invest it all on a SINGLE thing or on a lump sum. Also don't limit your options. Sure you researched both of those options of investment but reality is the internet world is so much bigger than that. Don't limit your options and instead be open to suggestions.