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Can 301 redirects be used as a "buffer"?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by snwbrdstylee, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. snwbrdstylee

    snwbrdstylee Registered Member

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    I was wondering if 301 redirects could be used as a "buffer"?.

    For example, if I blasted 6 of my buffer urls with xrummer and then 301'd these all to my money site. What would Google potentially ban/sandbox? My money site, my 301'd buffers, or both?
     
  2. Yukinari84

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    Buffers are used for the sole purpose of "taking the hits" which is why Web 2.0 properties work best. In the case you account gets banned, you get a site "sandboxed" by Google, etc you can always make more.

    Once you burn your own domains, that's pretty much it.
     
  3. snwbrdstylee

    snwbrdstylee Registered Member

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    I do understand that but I guess I am wondering more about exactly which sites Google would burn.

    For example, imagine I have a chain of multiple 301'd sites with 1 million links pointing to a.com:
    a.com -301-> b.com -301-> c.com -301-> d.com -> mymoneysite

    Will Google burn all of the domains in this chain or just my money site?
     
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    You're missing the point.

    I can't say for sure if Google would burn one or all. If they are all hosted on the same IP or have other footprints that cause them to look like they are setup, then maybe all.

    The point is why would you want to risk using a good domain as a buffer? It doesn't make any sense.

    Web 2.0 sites have authority in Google's eyes, so they can take a lot. Plus you don't have to worry about getting your paid domains that could be useful for so much more into trouble.
     
  5. dishnetboi

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    Yeah, But haven't these web 2.0 sites lost some of their authority over time? Such as the power they are worth in link wheels and whatnot. And I don't see squidoo and other sites like that in the top 3 of the SERPS nearly as much as I used to. Has anyone else noticed that?

    Don't take my word for it though, I'm not a SEO genius. Anyone care to comment on that though?

     
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    Squidoo got slapped by Google, but it's still great.

    It's not really the sites so much as the way people use them. For example, the link wheel. Every one heard that and started following the exact same linking pattern on the exact same sites.
     
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    Yeah, Do you know of any parasite sites like squidoo that are on the rise I guess you could say. Ones that haven't been slapped yet,
     
  8. snwbrdstylee

    snwbrdstylee Registered Member

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    I am just thinking hypothetically and perhaps buffer was a bad word choice.

    My thought process was that I could switch these 301's to different locations without having to link build again, almost like a garden hose spraying domains with link juice if you want to get metaphorical with it. I just see a few neat black hat opportunities with it and was just wondering if any one has ever toyed with it or if it was even worth testing.
     
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    Google has a permanent link memory, so probably not.

    You can change your domain to whatever server you like, but Google will know what was done to it, when it was done , and how it was done.
     
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    I see what you're getting at now.

    Yea, that could probably work.:D