Max Bounty is beyond horrible. They were one of the first CPA networks I was with when I first started. They definitely shave. Everyone brings up good points here, especially with how Steve chose to ban them AFTER this thread was posted, when if the conversion rate is so high, the traffic would have definitely been manually reviewed. When I was with them, I got tons of less clicks and close to zero converts, and the minute I switched over to another CPA network, I got at least 3x more clicks. Regardless, if you know they are shaving, just switch over to a different network. Never keep your eggs in one basket.
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I agree with No1here your post was highly offensive. Not only to those that may be Asian/Chinese, but also to those that may not speak or write perfect English. I don't have an account with Max Bounty, and after reading this thread I can guarantee that I will not be opening one in the future. And for the record shaving is unethical and at some level it should be an illegal act. If it is true that this practice is going on within the CPA industry, then maybe the Justice Dept should look into these shady Network practices. To me it is stealing from the affiliate plain and simple.
Just my two cents....
Just my two cents....
I agree with No1here your post was highly offensive.
mfg: Not only to those that may be Asian/Chinese, but also to those that may not speak or write perfect English. I don't have an account with Max Bounty, and after reading this thread I can guarantee that I will not be opening one in the future. And for the record shaving is unethical and at some level it should be an illegal act. If it is true that this practice is going on within the CPA industry, then maybe the Justice Dept should look into these shady Network practices. To me it is stealing from the affiliate plain and simple.
Just my two cents.... :secruity:
mfg: Not only to those that may be Asian/Chinese, but also to those that may not speak or write perfect English. I don't have an account with Max Bounty, and after reading this thread I can guarantee that I will not be opening one in the future. And for the record shaving is unethical and at some level it should be an illegal act. If it is true that this practice is going on within the CPA industry, then maybe the Justice Dept should look into these shady Network practices. To me it is stealing from the affiliate plain and simple.Just my two cents.... :secruity:
The Captain
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Oh my god, some of you guys are whingers. they used the same set of ips to fill out high paying offers (this was they super dooper way of testing the system), anyone with half a brain can tell that it was fake signups.
They got caught cheating the system, stop crying about it and move on. don't you guys have anything better to do than whinge about getting caught cheating?
Oh, and I don't have an account with max bounty, this is purely my observation.
They got caught cheating the system, stop crying about it and move on. don't you guys have anything better to do than whinge about getting caught cheating?
Oh, and I don't have an account with max bounty, this is purely my observation.
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since obviously you didn't read the post in your believing the Kool-Aid that Max is a serving the same set I keys were not used to fill out high-paying offers that is a straight out lie. Just want to correct you there Capt.we were not just testing the system we were testing Max bounty system we made it software to checkout how bad they were shaving so no high-paying offers were being filled out by the same IP. He has yet to offer up proof of this. If there was proof he would land out here so I would be banned. We were setting up a system of websites we were putting ads on them the sites were fully finished yet they were getting traffic so some people were filling out ads. He's mad because he got caught. So Capt. next time you speak please read what the OP which is me and Amanda write because it's not in Chinese. And he still hasn't answered the one question I keep asking if it was fraud or you were thinking we were fraudulent why did you not ban us until we posted this thread?
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If you are so innocent, why did you tell him to check the ips of the local libraries and you bet the signups came from there? How would you know where the signups came from if you didn't do them yourself?
looks more like *you* are mad because you got caught.
maybe you should do what you told me to do and READ. he already stated that you got caught because you brought attention to yourself, until then you were flying under the radar. Most companies will either scrap the bad submits or let a few bad ones go through, but start sending a shitload of crap leads and you are going to get banned.
You say you are redneck, but surely even a redneck is smart enough to see that?
The Captain
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oh really? kindly point them out
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I never said the sign ups came from public ips and he has not said that either.I know how I promote my sites.You are misinformed.The spelling they are referring to is "whingers".I did not get caught at anything He said that I was under the radar.And once again I ask "this is for you capt" if I was fraud why did he not ban me.....the answer is because it was never fraud.He can say it but he does offer no proof.I said what I did to check him.So capt.you are speaking without true understanding.
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hey dizz, remember the captain guy from the giveaway. its him.
The Captain
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it sure looked like you did. here, let me show you:
maybe they also don't understand English: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whingers
flying under the radar means you were doing wrong but just haven't been caught yet. this thread allowed you to be caught. You do understand that concept, right?
The answer is "he did ban you". oh, and I doubt he needs to show proof.
honestly, whinging about a few email submits. Is money really that hard to make?
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yeah I'm the guy that thought it was lame to give away a single account with nothing in it... your point?
oh I get it, you were giving away single accounts to boost your rep, you wouldn't get as much rep giving away more accounts to less people. i guess it's all part of the scam.
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no I totally forgot that. It totally slipped my mind that the captain was a guy who was complaining about me giving away twitter accounts. So he's over here complaining about something that he knows nothing about because I blew him off when he made a smartass comment on a giveaway thread. Thanks I forgot totally.
Look on another note folks this thread needs to get closed first of all Max Steve will never admit to any wrongdoing. I didn't do any fraud and that is my stance. He can falsify or make up whatever information at this point he wants. I never did asking for the money back because he's never to give it back. I put this up here so all people could see that they are a company that should not be worked with that is my opinion. Now I know about 90% of the thread shell on my side. Thank you very much for the people that cited with me. Steve this is the second time your company has done this to me that's why came at you the way I did. You were never intended to make it right if I ask you to. You know I'm not guilty of fraud or you would've banned me the first second that you got wind of it. Over 6000 clicks went to my account and you talk about geo-targeted what ever blah blah blah. I don't care I was never that he used your company again. There was only $10 left in that account and you know what I think you should put it. I want this to be over. The damages been done to both of us. I lost money that you owed me. You've lost affiliates. I don't accept your apology for your racist comment . Maybe the rest of them will buy your happier hand routine. I was stinking mad when I wrote this. But I didn't attack you personally I attacked your company. You attacked me personally you made it racial and personal. And then you went on to say fraud this fraud that an attacking professionally. There was no advertiser complaints your account managers would've contacted Amanda unless they never got complaints. If you would like to take care of this personally with me or Amanda UK the PM doesn't ask us what the problem was after I posted this but you turned it personal. It was very unprofessional I think. I'll do fraud I sometimes do black Hat sometimes gray hat sometimes white hat but never do fraud. At this point you can have written up any kind of complaints you want but if you produce a complaint from an advertiser please produce that advertisers contact information to a moderator so they can verify it. I don't think you're in a come up with much. But personally I just want this thread to be over with not because I'm guilty of anything wrong because I'm not. I'm just sick of the time it's taking out of my life when I should be working in making money. You're in the top five that's great I wonder how long you stay there treating your affiliates like this. I love my job working and IM and we use lots of other affiliates that we have no problems with. So good luck to you in your company and I do mean that I hope you saved your money. We work in a world where reputation is everything and I have a reputation for not lying. But your reputation is a little less than honest. You burn me before you burn me again I will never let you have that chance every again. So insulting that you had to stoop to the level of insulting me personally it is in embarrassing. What kind of person are you personally I really have to wonder after that statement. I know you apologized any good businessman would want to retract that statement especially after with the way the crowd reacted to it. But in my experience as a person and as a businessman usually the first statements and words that come out of a person mouth is really who he is and how he feels. I hope that you change and I hope that you change or business practices. You banning us was a joke it's kind of like firing the guy who just quit. You can keep treating your affiliates this way. The ones that are joining you will find out the hard way the ones you've read this thread won't join you and the ones who are using you might stop using you. You know I wasn't defrauding you and you aren't getting any complaints from the advertisers.
Jason and Amanda
Look on another note folks this thread needs to get closed first of all Max Steve will never admit to any wrongdoing. I didn't do any fraud and that is my stance. He can falsify or make up whatever information at this point he wants. I never did asking for the money back because he's never to give it back. I put this up here so all people could see that they are a company that should not be worked with that is my opinion. Now I know about 90% of the thread shell on my side. Thank you very much for the people that cited with me. Steve this is the second time your company has done this to me that's why came at you the way I did. You were never intended to make it right if I ask you to. You know I'm not guilty of fraud or you would've banned me the first second that you got wind of it. Over 6000 clicks went to my account and you talk about geo-targeted what ever blah blah blah. I don't care I was never that he used your company again. There was only $10 left in that account and you know what I think you should put it. I want this to be over. The damages been done to both of us. I lost money that you owed me. You've lost affiliates. I don't accept your apology for your racist comment . Maybe the rest of them will buy your happier hand routine. I was stinking mad when I wrote this. But I didn't attack you personally I attacked your company. You attacked me personally you made it racial and personal. And then you went on to say fraud this fraud that an attacking professionally. There was no advertiser complaints your account managers would've contacted Amanda unless they never got complaints. If you would like to take care of this personally with me or Amanda UK the PM doesn't ask us what the problem was after I posted this but you turned it personal. It was very unprofessional I think. I'll do fraud I sometimes do black Hat sometimes gray hat sometimes white hat but never do fraud. At this point you can have written up any kind of complaints you want but if you produce a complaint from an advertiser please produce that advertisers contact information to a moderator so they can verify it. I don't think you're in a come up with much. But personally I just want this thread to be over with not because I'm guilty of anything wrong because I'm not. I'm just sick of the time it's taking out of my life when I should be working in making money. You're in the top five that's great I wonder how long you stay there treating your affiliates like this. I love my job working and IM and we use lots of other affiliates that we have no problems with. So good luck to you in your company and I do mean that I hope you saved your money. We work in a world where reputation is everything and I have a reputation for not lying. But your reputation is a little less than honest. You burn me before you burn me again I will never let you have that chance every again. So insulting that you had to stoop to the level of insulting me personally it is in embarrassing. What kind of person are you personally I really have to wonder after that statement. I know you apologized any good businessman would want to retract that statement especially after with the way the crowd reacted to it. But in my experience as a person and as a businessman usually the first statements and words that come out of a person mouth is really who he is and how he feels. I hope that you change and I hope that you change or business practices. You banning us was a joke it's kind of like firing the guy who just quit. You can keep treating your affiliates this way. The ones that are joining you will find out the hard way the ones you've read this thread won't join you and the ones who are using you might stop using you. You know I wasn't defrauding you and you aren't getting any complaints from the advertisers.
Jason and Amanda
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luv it when someone calls other company scammer, and company staff joins the forum XD
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