Obviously, there has been a lot of drama on BHW recently, which has been a distraction, but I am sure we will recover quickly. The one thing that has got my goat and grinds my gears is the continued assumption that BHW was better in the good old days. This is mainly said by long term, old time members. I say to you, that it was no better, or no worse than it is today. It was just a different beast. Scanning through the archives shows a lot of truly great and innovative methods being shared. Most of them, can still be worked today if twisted. At the time BHW was also a lot Blacker in nature, with many subjects open for discussion, which are now not permitted. A lot of those subjects, would in fact be illegal now. Also, the community was a lot smaller, which meant methods lasted longer before becoming saturated. Quality Methods in those days seemed to be shared frequently by many members, which was obviously a terrific thing. But now, I see a lot of old members saying that quality has decreased or nothing gets shared. I also see numerous complaints about The Lounge. Complaining is fine but I don't see what you guy's are doing to rectify things. Rather than hold on to the past, let us look to the future. So old timer's, what are your plans to make BHW even greater? Will you be sharing your methods? Will you be helping to improve the quality of BHW? Or have you run out of viable methods. Rather than moan about things, why don't you be proactive and practice what you preach? These questions are normally replied to with the excuse that the forum is too large now and that any method will become saturated by noobs such as myself. So we are left with the situation, that people continually complain about quality, but then do nothing to improve it. This does nothing for the forum. The crux of the matter, is simply that the forum has changed. Where BHW may have once been purely a Black Hat forum with a smallish membership it has since developed into a more general Business/IM forum with a huge membership. I am sure it will continue to change in the future. A good forum will continue to change and adapt to it's member's needs. Old timers, the old BHW is long gone. Get over it, unless you are in a position to close the membership and just have the selected members you want in BHW, there is no point complaining. BHW will continue to grow in size, because of this, we are likely to see less NEW methods, as people will be afraid of over-saturation or a method being destroyed by the inexperienced. This does not mean that BHW has lost any quality or that is no longer a valid resource. I see great things being shared everyday by old and new members alike. To all you complainers and dissenters, I say this to you: Do something to improve BHW or quit complaining. If you really feel that BHW is no longer the place for you, then you know where the door is. Alternatively, put your complaints to the only man that can do anything for you, ie DD but I am sure DD did not buy this forum because of his love of BlackHat SEO and IM, I would imagine he purchased it for a return on his investment. Remember, complaining without action is doing nothing to help BHW.