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bypassing question captcha,possible ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mehdvirus, Jul 1, 2010.

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  1. mehdvirus

    mehdvirus Junior Member

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    hi,
    I was wondering if bypassing the question captcha is possible or not ??
    can xrumer bypass it ? I don't believe it could be possible,
    and if it's not possible will it be the end of automation if everybody uses question captcha instead of image captcha ??
     
  2. Grizzy

    Grizzy Senior Member

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    If every site implemented it, that would certainly be a new hurdle for ocr captcha solving software.. but why would it mean the end of automation?
     
  3. mehdvirus

    mehdvirus Junior Member

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    well because it's kind of impossible to break these kind of captchas ,and if you can't bypass a captcha
    it's not an automation anymore,it's semi-automation !!

    there is a way to bypass it and it's using a really big database that covers every question but it's a little bit stupid as you can guess why !!
     
  4. Grizzy

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    I still don't get it. Sure maybe ocr solutions would be useless...

    But what about all those people in third world countries I get to solve captchas for pennies? I'm sure they wouldn't mind answering a question for me instead :D
     
  5. mehdvirus

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    the people in the third world country need to know English pretty well for this !!
    it's not just characters anymore !!

    besides,most of these question have been localized ,yesterday I saw a question in a uk forum,
    which was asking "what do you call the license for driving bike in uk?"
     
  6. Grizzy

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    While I don't agree that "most" have been localized, you do make a good point. The thing is the more complex a question the less user friendly the site, and I think large platforms will be hesitant to implement something too complex. Forums do implement this sort of stuff more and more tho.. They don't even have to be localized, they could just be something slightly obscure that relates to their niche. For example if you go to sherdog they ask you, "what does the acronym 'mma' stand for?"

    Will have to pay more to have them solved I guess.
     
  7. mehdvirus

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    so we are gonna die[​IMG], the success rate will fall so much !!
    and I don't believe they can solve these kind of captchas as easy as image captchas.

    btw,nice dick avatar :D
     
  8. ChanzGrande

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    Hey guys. I agree with what you guys have said to a certain extent, but I personally feel that captcha is presented to webmasters, and bought hook, line, and sinker despite that it doesn't in any way shape or form do what it claims, and it NEVER will.

    It certainly doesn't validate that the person trying to take whatever action it's protecting isn't a robot. All it validates is that the captcha solver is not a robot.

    OK, so the OCRs, and the questions. Well despite that you think it would be a lot of work to build a large database - it would not. All someone would have to do is automate the captcha acquisition process, and that can be done pretty easily.

    Further, due to the fact that there will always be people trying to game sites, there will likely always be demand for captcha type products.

    That means they'll be supply, so unless, and until machines build captchas entirely by themselves in 100% random non-repeating ways...these discussions are probably moot.

    I believe that currently bypassing these would not be possible/easy, but creating the impression it was bypassed would be VERY easy. And I'm not exactly a rocket scientist.
     
  9. jheyslow

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    If captchas will be replaced by localised questions, i think this could still be solved but it would have higher price than capchas. It can by answered with third world countries with westernized cultures. and I dont think they can make 1 million localised questions. This means the questions will repeated in several thousands entries. and this could be studied and memorized by the workers or will be stored in the database for automatic entries in future once it reach sufficient numbers to answer questions.
     
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    because nothing is secured %100.
    all I can say is as long as these security stuff (captchas, security questions) have been created by humans. and as long as this shet is working on computers there will be always a way to defeat it.
     
  11. mehdvirus

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    no it's not that easy as you say ,
    the reason I brought this up is I'm working on a similar project,I am making a software and I want it's success rate to be high,I've yet to find a way to break them !!
    I looked at a lot of sites and most of them have already started question captchas !!

    making a database is gonna work in a long time process,I guess I have to use a database too !!

    edit : OK , a great Idea just hit me right now,It's gonna be a complex algorithm and hard but it's possible ,yay.[​IMG]
    question captchas are beaten too:D(i have already broken "choose image captchas" and "javascript captchas" too)
    sorry can't give you details about the idea but for the users of this topic I'll give a 500$discount when my product is available (very expensive software but worth every penny)!
     
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    Here is another new for text captchas only http://www.textcaptchadecoder.com/