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Bypass "waiting period"/sandbox with aged websites (not domains)? Where to buy some?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ludicrousspeed, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. ludicrousspeed

    ludicrousspeed Newbie

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    I'm currently building out an authority site and some niche websites, and supporting some of it with a PBN I've built. They're all fresh domains. This is an investment I expect to pay off down the road, and I understand that it's a waiting game with big G before any of this stuff ranks. I expect it will be at least 3 months before seeing any significant results.

    In the meantime, it would be nice to get some quicker results on a side-project. Unless I'm mistaken, my understanding is that fresh content on an aged website should compete in the SERPs without as much trouble, especially for long-tail keywords. What I'd like to do is buy a website that's at least 3 years old, with a generic brandable name, that doesn't have too much content on it, but still has indexed pages. Something that hasn't been spammed with backlinks. Just a lump of clay I can mold myself. I have to think there are opportunities to buy sites like this on the cheap.

    Two questions:

    1. Is this a viable strategy, or would I see similar results as a brand new domain?

    2. Where the heck could I buy sites like this? I've tried looking at marketplaces like Flippa without much luck. Maybe I'll have to get creative with scrapebox and e-mail some site owners.
     
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    1. Not sure but I tried something like this a few months back and the aged domain I used behaved like a new domain even though it had no spammy links. Content on it didn't get indexed faster and it was moving up the rankings slowly. It was a PR 2 domain with completely natural backlinks.

    The best way to avoid the sandbox IMO is buying an aged site that already ranks for your target keyword, not an aged domain that doesn't rank for anything.

    2. For aged domains, use Godaddy auctions, Namejet, or Snapnames. If you want to find the right domain faster, use a service like expireddomains.net or registercompass.org that compile lists of expired domains from many sources and organize them according to their stats and the filters you selected. For aged sites, use the empireflippers.com marketplace.
     
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    Hey SEO Power, I'm big fan of your posts. I learned a lot from you in some of the PBN threads.

    I'm not referring to expired domains, though. I already have a scraping method I use to acquire those. One of my aforementioned niche sites is built on an exired domain with a nice backlink profile, as are all the PBN sites I've built. The niche site was a sort of experiment, but I think G just treats it like a new domain because all the old content has long since fallen off the index.

    What I'm looking for are actual websites that still exist. That still have all their pages indexed, but have been gathering dust for a while.
     
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    I am also interested in this.
     
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    In that case you can have a look at Flippa seems to be only choice, It all depends a lot on your budget to be honest.


     
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    I'll leave a comment to remember to come back, I also want to learn about this, I was thinking of buying some old simple websites myself.
     
  7. TropicalSun

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    I've been able to rank sites just as well now as I did a year ago, I am personally not seeing any type of waiting period that people are talking about.

    Build a site, build some links and give it a time for the rankings to settle before you start blasting more links. Most people over do it and you can rank a site with less links than people think they need.
     
  8. ludicrousspeed

    ludicrousspeed Newbie

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    Yeah, maybe I just need to spend more time carefully searching there. I'm definitely not interested in spending $x,xxx on something that's already generating revenue, which obviously is the main purpose of Flippa. Something lean, with minimal content and minimal backlinks would be perfect, but there isn't much point in listing sites like that there. Maybe Digital Point would be a good spot.

    Really? I've done a lot of reading on the subject, and all the case studies I've seen suggest that it takes at least a few months to get a fair shake in the SERPs for a new website. I hear there was an update in May that made it even worse. I've done a little testing myself with very low competition long-tail keywords and little (if any) linkbuilding, and they've been dancing around pages 10-20 for weeks. I've tested this on multiple sites, so I don't think the so-called "random ranking" factor is responsible, unless I'm just very unlucky. I see no reason why I shouldn't be on at least the first few pages in the results, aside from the sandbox/waiting-period.
     
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