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By How Many Words Should You Change An Article

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DocBrown, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. DocBrown

    DocBrown Regular Member

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    How much is enough??
    I'm currently copying a load of articles from a girls website. But how much do i need to change them in order for them to be considered unique new content??
    How do you check it?? I understand you could use copyscape but copyscape doesn't get everything. I wonder how google check it, if they use copyscape or what. The formula your trying to use for comparison makes a big difference wheather your comparing whole paragraphs which is stupid or comparing whole sentances(also stupid) and wheather you should stick to strings of words 3, 4, 5??? words long?:confused:

    Its hard to know how much you have to change an article before the person you stole it from has no grounds to report you to google.:eek:

    How much should you changs an article? Any ideas?:yield:
     
  2. DocBrown

    DocBrown Regular Member

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    Once an article passes Copyscape, does this mean your home and dried??
    Hopefully so but i'm unsure. From my use of altering other peoples articles it seems only necessary to change every 7th or 8th word in the article and not let strings of 7 or 8 words together in the one grouping?

    This seems odd because the article will still look the same kinda. What are peoples experiences - i dont want to get penalised by google!:eek::yield:
     
  3. MisterTwister

    MisterTwister Regular Member

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    I think anything over about 40% should be good, however Google seems to be getting better at spotting spun content so you should be replacing whole sentences and changing the layout and structure of your articles.
     
  4. DocBrown

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    How are you measuring 40%?
    I have a program from ezyas123 and you can pick how many words you want to see matched together and calculate density from that. I've heard 35% or 40% before but obviously its earier to achieve 40% if your matching only groups of words in bunches of say 10 together rather than 3 together.
     
  5. dirtbag

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    I spin unique to about 30% in PAR, but I'm sure the higher you go the better.
     
  6. V.Salt

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    You should visit the senuke blog. They have very interesting ideas for spinning articles. And a very detailed video.

    And personally I like to mix. You take two articles cut each in half and add pictures. Then you rewrite the thing. Sometimes you delete a sentence here or move stuff around.

    The whole idea is to be super random, sometimes you add a youtube vid. sometimes not... As long as you have lot's of backlinks per article... like 20-30 you'll never be considered dupe... sometimes they'll even put you higher in the rankings than the person you get your stuff from.

    But remember with G it's always random no matter what. You'll succeed most of the time but not always. Cause the new algorithm is crazy on social media everything's changing again...
     
  7. The Infiltrator

    The Infiltrator Junior Member

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    30-40% will do. Just basically partally rewrite it. use WordFlood to make some minor changes to the articles the quickest way!
     
  8. DocBrown

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    That senuke blog video was very informative but I dont trust the senuke product. I dont like taking one article and reproducing it 40 times simply cos it wont be readable and google will prob spot it.:yield:

    I was trying to steal articles and rewrite just one copy. Its difficult to know how much to change to pass copyscape but as far as i can tell you should try not to let any 4 words together in the one string. This to make sure though you can sometimes get away with 6 or 7.:yield:
     
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    Changing an article 30-40% is the minimum to safely pass as unique content in my experience.

    However, the more you change your article the better.

    SeNuke and any other article spinning software are safe to use as long as you spin properly.

    Don't just change words. You need to spin on a sentence and even paragraph level is you want to get really good results.
     
  10. DocBrown

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    Thats the best way to do it def.

    Just out of curiosity, has anyone passed an article on copyscape or indeed passed your whole site on copyscape but still went down the ranking all of a sudden and you suspect it was the duplicate content that got you??:listen:
     
  11. dirtbag

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    Generally when I am writing a spun article in PAR I write TWO COPIES of the article completely first. 3-5 paragraphs, each paragraph covering the same topics. Then I spin out each paragraph. Within each paragraph I spin 1-2 sentences COMPLETELY OUT, So they either appear or they don't. Then I spin 2-3 sentences to different sentences entirely. Finally I go over the entire article and spin out individual words.

    If you've done this thoroughly you can spin the everliving shit out the article over and over again. I you were to goto a thirs entire rewriting of the article and spin in a third set of paragraphs you'll pull even more unique spins. I randomize images in between my paragraphs, sometimes youtube videos if whereever i'm posting allows it. The more thorough you are in th e original writing of the syntaxed article, the more copies you'll get out of it.

    It takes a little time to put an article together, but when you're done is it ever worth it.

    Only complaint I have about PAR is that when you're spinning this way, even a 500 word article can bloat to a whole lot of text, and when you get so much text into PAR it starts to get glitchy. Any programs use the same syntax for spinning tokens as PAR, with a similar word suggestion tool, that can handle large amounts of text in the editor?
     
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