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Buying PBN Links from BHW: Straight to site, or to buffers?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SEO_Ninja, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. SEO_Ninja

    SEO_Ninja Junior Member

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    If you were building an authority site, and there was a tough keyword you wanted to target, but you don't have the budget to build your own PBN, would you send purchased PBN links straight to that page, or would you send them to a Web 2.0?

    How much is the link juice diluted if you were to send them to buffers?
     
  2. BlackBDO

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    Depends on what type of links (quality) you buy. There are very cheap PBN posts ($1-3/Post). You can use those as tier 2.
    And there are other services that provide more expensive but higher quality PBN posts, it would be a waste of $$ to use those as tier 2.

    So, always have good quality tier1, that's the main point :D
    Cheers!
     
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  3. jon_xx_x

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    I'd find another keyword to target.
     
  4. Banditoseo

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    The answer is, "it depends."

    For-sale PBNs have a tell-tale signature: 300-500 words, each post has one link out, each post scores poorly for grammar/etc, the backlinks have no topical relevance to the site, the posts have no topical relevance to each other, etc. It's foolish to assume that fact has escaped Google.

    If you're building authority, but don't have it yet, paid PBN links are riskier towards the whole site. If the site has authority, PBN links are riskier for the particular page if you hit it too hard.

    I'd say posts from a for-sale PBN are better directed at buffers. But they're also usually not worth it for that.
     
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  5. cashcorp

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    If your in it for the long-haul and want something that is going to last...

    You want curated T1 properties. Stuff you have either made yourself, or purchased not as "PBN links" but as specifically relevant, high metric, hand curated content. (Think some press releases, Huffpo, Wikipedia, related journals/blog sites, etc.)

    Mixing in lower quality PBN to the lower tiers is fine - depending on quality, bump them up or down the tiers as needed.
     
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  6. asap1

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    Exactly what the first post says. :)
     
  7. 710fla

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  8. hootsparta

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    Agreed With First Post, it depends on the quality links you get :)
     
  9. Speed23

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    If i am you, i won't buy anything PBN from here. Even those cheap ones with lots of posts are waste of money. Build other type of link to your tier 1.
     
  10. ThopHayt

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    Times have changed, I'd say that buffers are the way to go for sure. You also have to be VERY careful about which PBNs you choose even in that case. There has been a lot of garbage floated around the marketplace lately, and even with a T1 buffer you don't want it. Build out a good T1 PBN/Web2.0/guestpost network and then use only the better quality PBNs at T2 (and only on drip and don't over post).

    -ThopHayt
     
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  11. danparks

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    Agreed. We always needed to be cautious and careful about Tier 1 - those links that go directly to money sites. But lately I think it's important to be much more careful with Tier 2 - the links to Tier 1. I have a "secondary" PBN that I use to power up my Tier 1.

    I don't need it to be huge, or make use of it a lot, because I try to buy Tier 1 domains that have pretty good backlink profiles - they don't need to be juiced up much. My Tier 2 PBN sites are okay, but not great, domains (think PR1 type sites, and domains with really specific, strange names that can never be "forced" to look like they fit into a specific niche for a good Tier 1 site).

    For my Tier 1 sites that have lost some backlinks, or just aren't that great, I prefer to send those sites a few of MY OWN backlinks from MY OWN Tier 2 sites. I'd rather send them a few known, solid backlinks then toss a hundred worthless spammy blog comments at them from automated tools. More power, and less chance of getting busted (as I think Google is getting better at looking "upstream" and figuring out tiered linking schemes).
     
  12. spider4567

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    Blast PBN link to money site, dont waste quality links to buffer. That's what i'm doing, don't be stingy in doing IM, even though you failed, you will learn from your mistake that others might not. DONT GIVE UP
     
  13. Banditoseo

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    I agree with all of this but I've bolded the last sentence because it deserves some discussion of its own. I think Google has been able to look "upstream" for a while, but they've been in a quandary about what to do. The problem is negative SEO. It's one thing to show a webmaster links in GSC and then penalize them for not disavowing them. But a website has no idea what's going on "upstream" and there's nothing they can do about it. The potential for negative manipulation is simply too great: a competitor could GSA the shit out of a competitor's best links and kill the site.

    Personally, I think the worst that can happen at Tier 2 is that a link gets devalued by bad links, but I don't think any penalty passes through.
     
  14. kindarthur

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    Yes, I am also agreed with the first post!

    But I would like to give some suggestion to consider before buying the PBN links for money site. Before buying PBN links to your money site, you need to diversify your anchor text with more natural. How? Don’t use primary keywords to get PBN links and also don’t buy more links for single keywords.

    You have to find the long tail secondary keywords from primary keywords to get PBN links. And also use generic, branding and naked URLs to build PBN links to money site.
     
  15. SEOMARBELLA

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    I would use it to buffer, preferably a PBN Tier-1 as buffer...
     
  16. jacker818

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    Straight up. I would definitely suggest you avoid buying PBN links from market place and build your own PBN.