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Buying High PR Homepage Links - Do you Recommend it?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Windmill, May 7, 2012.

  1. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    Do you buy high PR homepage links? Do you recommend it?

    My thoughts are... it is tricky. I have a client that runs a business that supports 10+ employees. The penguin updates have lost them 30% of their traffic, which hurts. Their competitors are buying high PR homepage links. The unnatural link penalty seemed to target high PR links that were bought :(

    Its tough. To compete, we have tough decisions to make. What would you do? Risk the penalty?
     
  2. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    No.

    1) static links are spammy
    2) PR has no effect on linkjuice
     
  3. Windmill

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    PR certainly has an effect on linkjuice! Also; why would the links be spammy for being static Homepages are naturally static.
     
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    ARE YOU INSANE!?!?!?!?!


    Anyway, I recently did a test with this. After the most recent PR update, I had a site of mine increase its PR, so I created a homepage link from that site to another one of my sites for a specific keyword. The keyword was at spot 29, and now it is switching between 10 and 11. So, in short, I think it works. It is an 100% White Hat link building method, so of course Google will love it.
     
  5. turdface

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    False. PR increases PR. In other words, you get more PR from a high PR link than from a PR0 link. But the high PR link doesn't necessarily carry with it more linkjuice for your keywords.

    And let's say you get a ton of PR cuz you get a bunch of high PR links. Just because your site's PR increases doesn't mean you will rank higher. It may rank higher, but correlation doesn't imply causation.

    I don't really care about the PR of my sites, and I regularly outrank higher PR sites for my keywords. >90% of my sites are PR0 and have been for years. But I don't care, because most of them are on page 1.

    I kind of think PR is just Google trolling everyone.

    PR is good for selling links to people who think PR matters, or who want to increase their site's PR because they are going to sell it to someone who thinks PR matters. That's about it.

    I misread the question. That one was my fault :eek:
     
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  6. Windmill

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    YOUR website doesn't need to be a high PR to outrank competitors; but getting links FROM high PR sites is an important, relevant SEO strategy. It is just basic SEO ;)
     
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    Could you get it contextual or is the homepage content frequently changing? Is it a relevant site?
     
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    Backlink from High PR pages matter a lot provided the OBL is less.Since,penguin update,I have been doing high PR blog comments for my site and its ranking at no.4.
     
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    So are you saying that OBL is important, or are you saying that contextual content links are more powerful than static links?
     
  10. Windmill

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    Its a contextual link - but its on a blog homepage. It would be in an article that is relevant to the link, but I'm sure the rest of the posts aren't! There is a maximum of 55 posts per homepage. The link is permament.
     
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    I will suggest you before buying links, try to check demo services then you check link's effect if it's good then you can buy this !! many site are provide these type of services..:)
     
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    The best way to checkout will be by buying such a link. After penguin update it would be to early to say what works and what doesn't unless you test them out yourself.
     
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    But if you get a lot of high PR links your site itself will be high PR (links transfer PR), yet you just said it's not required to be high PR to outrank competitors. Therefore, PR links are not required to get high placement.

    PR is sort of like a disinformation strategy now. It was relevant for some things a while ago, but not so much anymore, but for some reason people still put a lot of importance on it.

    Can high PR links help your search engine placement? Yes!

    Can low PR links help your search engine placement? Yes!

    Are high PR links necessarily better, all else being equal? No.

    Are they more expensive? Yes. Because there is a perceived value.

    It's the same reason Fiji water is $4 for a bottle and Ice Mountain water is $1.29 for the same size bottle.
     
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    I misspoke about the static links thing. I thought the OP was talking about something else when I first read this thread.

    IMO contextual links are more powerful. I personally don't tend to prefer blogroll or footer links which is what I thought he was talking about. I think they're spammy. Granted there are spammy contextual links, too. But footer links and that type of thing are spammy. They're what you see hardcoded into shady WP themes so that your site is about dog training or whatever and in the footer of every page are links that say "DRIVING SCHOOL LESSONS" or "VIRGINIA MORTGAGE LOAN" or other spammy stuff.

    @OP - I'm not saying don't try this strategy. It's definitely worth a try, and if it doesn't work, then don't keep doing it. Give it a try and post your results. I for one would definitely be interested in hearing what happens.
     
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    I still use the home page links. The thing is you need to be smart with keyword diversity and the quality of the network and uniqueness of the content.
     
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    God! That's basics of SEO!
    High pr d0follow > low pr d0follow
    High pr n0follow = low pr n0follow
    Are you student of Matt Cutts?
     
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    People said private blog networks still work.
     
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    Personally I would do it. But be very careful with diversification. Don't use it solely to rank.

    Perhaps only 1 percent of your links. If you have 1.000 links, 10 of them should be links bought from high PR sites. Perhaps even less.

    For me that doesn't sound too suspicious. I guess when like 20-30 percent of your links come from high PR page, very few links but 20-30 percent of them are high PR, that becomes too big a footprint or pattern.
     
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    omg turdface, you're so misinformed.
     
  20. thinkinghat

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    hpbl's are still king. but what matters most is where you are getting them. +1 for post above minie