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Buying High PR Aged Domains? - SEE THIS ONE

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aka sam, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. aka sam

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    Hello Folks,

    YES, I am a fan of High PR old Domains ...There are countless benefits if we can fetch some good HIGH PR domains. As a link builder I hv been buying aged domains for private clients and I got cheated several times ( some folks can even cheat me now :) ) ...and now I have developed a small check list to ensure I dont get cheated too badly ...Lets have a look at it ...How Do I buy aged domains:


    I am not going to talk about which Action to go for , of which filter to choose while looking for high pr domains, I will come straight to the point, Lets say this is the domain which is high PR and you are thinking of buying this one :

    WWW. interestinghighprdomain .com


    Here we jump into my check list :

    1. PA/DA and Back Links:

    I am really concerned about PA and DA metrics. and you can even check Bulk PA and DA Using this site :

    Mozcheck . com (the bad thing about the tool is you have to log in before using it...I hate login :) )


    So it will give you PA DA And back links ....Though these metrics may differ from one expert to another..Here's what I am Fine with

    PA- Anything Above 25
    DA- Anything Above 25
    Back Links - Its hard to judge. For PR 1 - 20+, For PR2- 40+ , For PR 3- 60+ and so on....though you can go deeper checking the quality of those back links...But I dont go so deep.. (I am afraid of drowning)


    2. Dropped Domain(check if the domain has dropped for more than 2 times?)


    I cant explain you what is a dropped domain. But as most of us know, SEOs dont recommend you buying a domain which has dropped more than 2 times...so How do i check it ?


    I go to www . domaintools. com and enter the WWW. interestinghighprdomain .com in it and it gives me some result like this :


    drop.png


    In the above example , It shows as 1 drop ...so its fine with me...but If you find more than 2 drops you can skip the domain...




    3. FAKE PR



    This one troubled me a lot...And I am not sure if I am completely out of it.

    People use redirects to pass the PR link juice and they will remove those re directs once you buy those domains and then you will loose PR suddenly...

    So whats the hack...

    Dont believe on those FAKE PR checker ..actually they dont know what they do :)


    Here's what you have to do..

    (a) Go to google.com
    (b) paste this info:WWW. interestinghighprdomain .com

    (c) And if you find same domain (interestinghighprdomain) in the result ...You are fine to grab it...


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    Thanks buddy!
     
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    I have domains with more than 2 drops and they are still great. I really think it's all about the links that domain name has...
     
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  4. aka sam

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    Quite right Kappa, I have seen the same thing too for some of the domains I bought in the past. But if you compare the two domains which have same number of back links ...and one of them is 2 times dropped and one of them is with zero drops...then zero drop would go ahead in the race. Thats my experience , No offense !
     
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    How to find these High PR domain ?
     
  6. aka sam

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    There are thousands of sources available. I trust Go Daddy Auctions for them :)
     
  7. Glenn BH

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    Have you ever had a chance to compare two domains (one w/ two and one w/ zero drops) with the same amount and the same quality of backlinks? I don't think so... The number of backlinks is just a small part of the game.
     
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  8. aka sam

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    Rightly said. I did not have a chance. Its hard to get a chance like this. I just tried to explain the value of "Less Drops" in that statement...Hope you get it :)
     
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    Thanks aka_sam, I didn't know about the Mozcheck tool you mentioned. It's really useful.

    As for Backlinks, I have found that it's not the quantity of links that will determine the PR of your expired domain page but rather the PR of the links. For example, if you have a link from a PR7 with other smaller links, there's a good chance you will get a PR5. For instance, I recently purchased a domain with only about 40 backlinks but it's already a PR 5.

    Best of luck in your chase for good domains!
     
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  10. aka sam

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    +1 for your comment. You are quite right on this one.
     
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    Dumb question from a newb, but I don't know the answer.... What does PA and DA stand for?
     
  12. MarkWW

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    They are metrics by SEOMoz. DA stands for Domain authority and PA stands for Page authority.

    That is incomplete, you should check both, with and without www.
     
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    Thanks
     
  14. HunterWoods

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    Does PR reset when you buy an expired domain, or a PR domain on auction? when google sees its new owner/new site
     
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    PR does not reset when you buy an expired domain name, no matter how many times you change the whois information or change the website.
     
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    Thank Mark...for your answers!
     
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    This is a great starter list! Here are a few additional things I do when checking on High PR Expired Names:

    1) Pull up a backlinks report in MajesticSEO and take a look at the anchor text summary. If you see things like "Viagra" etc. I would skip the domain, because there is a good chance it was penalized
    2) Pull up Way Back Machine and take a look at all of the snapshots available for the site. If at any point it looks like someone was using it as a blog network/spammy MFA/CPA site there is also a good chance it is now penalized, and unless you want to spend your time on Google WMT submitting reconsideration requests I would move onto the next one.
     
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    Thanks for the info.
     
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    Great Add On!! Thanks Man
     
  20. FatSteve

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    I think the only thing our friend forgot there is archive.org stats.

    While they may not be directly relevant BUT they show you the lifetime of the site. Let me explain:

    If you are about to pick up a site from 1998 with PR4.... and you check archive.org and see that this site has been online just for a few years and then nothing - there is a huge chance PR wont stick.

    Basically, before you buy expired domain, go through archive.org and check the history - see for how long time actual website has been up, it will help you greatly to identify how many backlinks it might have gotten (SEOMOZ and Majestic aint 100% accurate)...

    Just my $0.02
     
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