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buying from non-americans = PAIN IN THE ASS

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Jaykub, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. Jaykub

    Jaykub Power Member

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    hey guys,
    I'm getting more and more frustrated with all the people selling their services here mostly from non-us countries.

    FIRST off I want to say that I can also be considered not being "american" because of my origin etc. and also I'm absolutely not a racist, it's really important for me that you guys know that.

    But I cant stress enough that buying from sellers who are not living in the states is somehow really painful for me ..

    You buy one acc, and you find out it's banned already.

    You buy another one and you find out "whoops your seller hasnt put in a phone number although you clearly said you wnat to have a PVA!"

    You buy another acc and you find out it's not from the location you wanted it to be...

    The list goes on and on

    Thats the worst feeling you can have: You are waiting for your PVA (some are also extremely unreliable and don't answer for DAYS etc.) and hope everything is exactly as you wanted..and then you find out there is something wrong AGAIN. SIGH..


    I don't know what you guys think but I'm getting more and more stressed and skeptical. My friend is also making the EXACT experiences as I do and I have been trying several ones from "third world countires" (i hate this expression)..

    EDIT: I also have to admit that there are some who are absolutely genuine and friendly, always supportive and helping out...but then again there are the "other ones" as well which is kinda sad...

    How do you guys deal with it? I'm slowly at the end of my tether.....
     
  2. Jannes

    Jannes Newbie

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    Is it like pay less, get less?
     
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  3. MafiaBoss

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    All they want is the Money MoooooooooooooMoney.

    BTW, One Advise :

    If you are dealing or buying someone which is not from EU or USA. Just tell them in layman terms, Don't use words like PVA which they never heard before but still say YES they will provide it.

    1. Say You Want 10 Accounts, Must be full Registered with all the Info Phone Number, Address, Country etc.
     
  4. Asif WILSON Khan

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    I am sure if you are willing to pay top dollar, then you can find an American supplier.

    There are crap sellers everywhere and yes it can be frustrating but TBH you get what you pay for.
    If you are buying from clowns then you are going to have problems.

    Where somebody is from isn't a great concern to me, what is important is that they are professional.
    This isn't too hard to ascertain if you contact them prior to any purchase, ask them some relevant questions and then judge from their responses.

    As long as the person can READ/WRITE/COMMUNICATE well in English then their location isn't that important.
     
  5. umerjutt00

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    I bought around 1k accounts from a non-USA seller and each and every account is working and delivered as promised. It is simple - You get what you pay for. If you need something of high quality be ready to pay the right amount of money.
     
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  6. Jaykub

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    yeah you guys may be right :) I've calmed down already, i was just really really frustrated ...i guess I've learnt my lesson, the thread can be closed or even deleted because there is nothign really to discuss anymore :)

    oh btw i thought i was paying "top dollar" for one supplier who was also a huge disappointment!

    Thanks guys
     
  7. angelical

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    Problem is everyone falls prey for the cheap prices trick. When you have two different prices for same product it is natural human tendency to be tempted to buy cheap one. But my friend quality always comes with a price. My advice before falling for the prices enquire the product details with the supplier. You can judge how professional he is by his talks and then check around for few testimonials and then go ahead. Good luck !
     
  8. Jaykub

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    i AM paying relatively high for ONE account, just for your information guys! ;) and the exact seller has provided (again) totally crappy stuff...am disappointed once again, have started to look for another one ;)
     
  9. erickishere

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    You just gotta sort out the bad suppliers and the good suppliers. Takes time but when you find a good one, you're set from there on out
     
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    Who are you buying from and are they on this forum?
     
  11. Jaykub

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    yes but i havent "outed" him yet since i'm giving people a few "second chances" to make things okay :p
     
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    Just tell them that unless they get their act together then you will name and shame them.
    That should get the ball rolling.
     
  13. reminx

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    it's definitely hard to pick the good from the bad, especially over the internet. being on these forums for just a few weeks, I feel like I have a million options and no idea if people are scamming me or helping me.
    that being said, when people with high post counts review a service favourably it does lend it quite a lot of weight and help me wade through all the lazy and unreliable people. i'm glad for this resource, there's just so much to learn and it's seriously daunting.
     
  14. Nigel Farage

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    My concern is that you assume that others are somehow going to interpret having "non-american" sentiments makes you a racist. Which race is America that makes you somehow predisposed to a particular race and biased against a non-american race. And which races are those.

    It doesn't matter what you think, believe or feel. Your fear, and the level of your deep indoctrination is showing. It's glaringly obvious. So obvious, in fact, that I cam compelled to address it, and completely ignore the pretext of your thread. Does it really matter, this feeble subject you've raised, when you consider and realize that the whole of your identity is controlled by the spectre of nameless, faceless people that you do not know, who do not know you, etc...? You don't even know what they think about race, racism, Americans, non-americans, etc...; you are modifying your behaviors, how you choose your words, out of fear of what "they" MIGHT think, MIGHT feel, might believe, etc...

    Consider how much power you hand over to these people; these substandard complainers and posturers, these people that feign insult at any comment that can be deformed into some statement about race. Worse, you enslave your intellectual superiors to their, and your, retarded social agenda; taking control from the honest, straight-talking intellectual superiors and handing over to the manipulative parasites that contribute nothing but excrement. It's not just "them" I have a problem with, it's you too. After all, it is people like you that give them power, and once given they attempt to use that power against me, and others like me.

    Meanwhile, you've become reduced to a fearful, gibbering puddle of nonsense, desperately hoping that no one will judge or condemn you for having some secret, hidden thoughts that not even you may be aware of. You THINK "they" might be aware of them, and that's enough to send you into a spastic convulsion of meaningless, incomprehensible garbage.

    What culture indoctrinated you in this way? Which government is responsible for reducing you to static and inert retardation, that you feel so compelled to contort and bastardize your simple, straightforward sentiments into gibbering blather? Are you British? Canadian? From the former Soviet Bloc? What government-sponsored MK-Ultra program has done this to you? Are you even aware of who and what you are? If so, do you intend to change, or attempt to accept your fate as a mindless automaton controlled by whichever government happens to control the corporate mass-media at the time.
     
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  16. cebrux

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    Are you saying racism is too over-used these days? Or what? I got lost on the corporate mass-media statement lol...
     
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  17. rangerOH

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    u don't judge entire people by 1 seller, for example if 1 seller in usa scam me, i should stop dealing with usa as i think all of them are 'pain in the ass like op's said
    good and bad exist everywhere, u need to check, test the seller. ask for a sample, go look to his profile in bhw and dig deep on his threads.
    here i will share a personal info with u: now i live in ukraine and trying to do IM everyday with world wide think all ukranian are hackers and liars and steal money..etc and that is really bad for my business
    i get up everyday working from the first hours of the day, just to prove them wrong...
    i hope u release ur mistake op
    P.s: if u do business with some people that haven't even 15 posts in bhw and they replay to u: yes we know everything, i can help u, or another replay from people sadly, bhw is full of them, chances are ur getting scammed
     
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  18. RushingWind

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    Honestly, it all depends on the seller. He or she could be from the moon and still sell twitter followers that disappear in a thrice. On the other hand, he or she could be from hell and still sell top notch stuff. I understand your situation. I have been in the same situation. But for me their countries didn't really matter as I got some shit stuff from the same country you mentioned. I agree, they are more communicable which is probably why people want to use a proxy while signing up on fiverr. If you get my drift :D