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I remember when people used to throw the "Negative SEO" buzz phrase around like there was not tomorrow; right after the Google Penguin algorithm update went into effect.

But are we seeing this now on Instagram as well?

If you look at the attached chart of the daily follower growth of one of our pages you'll see what I mean.

Starting September 2nd (around 4 days ago), we started getting injections of around 1k "ghost" / fake followers. From yesterday until today (9/6/2018) we got another injection; so 3 total so far. Throughout this fake follower increase, our engagement rate has been dropping from about 3% to about 1.4%.

We did not purchase these fake followers, so somebody else must have done it (maybe a jealous competitor, who the f*** knows).

Have you guys experienced something like this?

This is really easy to do to a page nowadays and pretty cheap too. Having to go back and clean up the fake or bot followers is doable, but a pain in the arse. Mathematically, they do bring your engagement rate now, since your follower base is higher.

What are your thoughts on this and what the best approach is to deal with it?

Thanks and I hope that this doesn't happen to any of you!
 

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That's funny because... Its a technique I already thought about.

What you can do is look for a tool that removes all your inactive followers and cross fingers... Not many solutions to this.
 

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What's the best and safest WAY to remove ghost/inactive/fake followers?

I'm using followliker atm
 

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Not much you can do. Even I have done this out of spite and may consider doing it again.

I spent 10 bucks to spam a competitor with powerlikes... and she deleted those two posts!!! I was very happy and amused.
Ten bucks well spent.
 

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Throughout this fake follower increase, our engagement rate has been dropping from about 3% to about 1.4%

You mention the rate but what about total interactions (likes/comments per post)? Are those going down too?
 

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You mention the rate but what about total interactions (likes/comments per post)? Are those going down too?

Total interactions are the same, but engagement rate is something that a lot of people look at when it comes to an influencer's clout on a social platform. Adding dead weight decreases that %. It's mathematical and affects potential clients psychologically. It is what it is.
 

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Total interactions are the same, but engagement rate is something that a lot of people look at when it comes to an influencer's clout on a social platform. Adding dead weight decreases that %. It's mathematical and affects potential clients psychologically. It is what it is.
Maybe you should register on some smm and buy automatic lets say 100 likes to every your post and engagement will be again 3%. That is best you can do i think...
 

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Like all NSEO it is a waste of time ultimately. If you had the money/time to scale this up enough to actually make you successful it would cost the same or more than it would to just make yourself successful... meanwhile there will be somebody doing things right behind you who you forgot to spam who will eventually pass you up. And if you nail him, there will always be another. You're essentially scraping back the ocean with a spoon.

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Like all NSEO it is a waste of time ultimately. If you had the money/time to scale this up enough to actually make you successful it would cost the same or more than it would to just make yourself successful... meanwhile there will be somebody doing things right behind you who you forgot to spam who will eventually pass you up. And if you nail him, there will always be another. You're essentially scraping back the ocean with a spoon.

-ThopHayt
Yes, I agree, but it's pretty shitty how easy this is to do. What's worse is if Instagram actually decreases your reach because of it. It wouldn't surprise me, as it would mean businesses would have to rely more on paid ads, which suck.
 

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What's worse is if Instagram actually decreases your reach because of it. It wouldn't surprise me, as it would mean businesses would have to rely more on paid ads, which suck.
Don't give them ideas.
 

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This is a Fear I always had when growing Instagram pages, but you can solve it by blocking/deleting inactive followers.

Hopefully whoever is doing this to you, stops and your engagement rate goes back to what it was or higher.
 

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ten bucks spent being a dick

LMAO Idc I know I'm evil hehehe. Its funny to see this is the line where everyone has suddenly has morals on this site.

I have a personal vendetta against a certain type of person in my niche...they are all buddies clones of the same type of person that get engagement for reasons non-related to their content. (basic concept of twitch hoes but not as 'bad')
Its slow but I'll definitely come out on their level one day and they will have no choice but to acknowledge me.
 

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Not much you can do. Even I have done this out of spite and may consider doing it again.

I spent 10 bucks to spam a competitor with powerlikes... and she deleted those two posts!!! I was very happy and amused.
Ten bucks well spent.

Wait. You bought her powerlikes (so likes that worth) and she deleted the posts? Can you ruin my accounts too with powerlikes? ahaha
 

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Wait. You bought her powerlikes (so likes that worth) and she deleted the posts? Can you ruin my accounts too with powerlikes? ahaha
IKR thats why I am so jaded. I bought probably like 200 bucks total in powerlikes and by the time I got to the last two, I realized IG was poisoning my account.

So I decided fuck this one acc who has 1/20th my followers and is getting 4,5,6,7 times my engagement cuz the niche leaders 'like' her. Lets give her more likes! She noticed real fast surprisingly and deleted those two posts I promoted. I'm the "petty avg girl" who is hating on the "new cute girl in school" hahahaha.

Trust me you don't want my powerlikes sent to you if you are getting less than 600 likes in the first ten minutes already... IG will crush u like they did me.
 

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You could block/unblock users that haven't interacted with your account in x days to get rid of them. But this also could hurt the following you had prior to this incident.
 

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You could block/unblock users that haven't interacted with your account in x days to get rid of them. But this also could hurt the following you had prior to this incident.

That might work when you get a couple of hundreds fake followers, but not really manageable when you have an account with more than 10k followers, scraping through 10k followers and cross compare if they ever like your post could take hours, and that could easily stack up when your "evil competitors" send you 50k fake followers for $0.5 lol.
 

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That might work when you get a couple of hundreds fake followers, but not really manageable when you have an account with more than 10k followers, scraping through 10k followers and cross compare if they ever like your post could take hours, and that could easily stack up when your "evil competitors" send you 50k fake followers for $0.5 lol.
Well I mean if your automating it, it doesn't really matter how long it takes.
 
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