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Buy Old Domain to Rank Quicker?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jb2008, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. jb2008

    jb2008 Senior Member

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    I've been reading about this but am not sure whether it could actually work.

    Increasingly it is becoming harder to rank new domains, to the point of being discriminatory against new domains. To counteract this I've been thinking of making my sites on old domains - the main disadvantage about this method is that I will not have the keyword in the domain.

    I also have xrumer. And I am not really using it except for white hat shit (lol). It's like having an uzi but being too scared to pull the trigger. This is because xrumering a new domain is asking to be sandboxed for like a year.

    Does anyone have experiences with using old domains to rank quickly?
     
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    MisterF Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    provided it hasn't been dropped, it can help
     
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    jb2008 Senior Member

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    Does anyone have actual experiences with this they can share?
     
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    Yes, I can say that ranking new domains is also not that hard !!

    It's just psychological!! dont you think new domains with good business ranked top in google after 2-3 months?

    I know people have old domains but still no luck .. I believe the algorithm is kind of fancy trust me you need good back links and manual directory submission and that really works .. I never been involve in xrumer etc .. and thing works good for me :) but you must have a budget of $2-3k for the first 1-2 months and than $200 / month can do the job :)
     
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    Ranking new domains is a piece of cake, when you know what you're doing. It's all about researching your niche and the right keywords. If you wanna rank for 'diet', like some kid in another thread yesterday, then you're in for a long wait, aged domain or not. But if you wanna rank for 'nice summer diet plans' then you probably stand a bigger chance of actually getting a nice placement.
     
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    Many other factors have more impact and influence on a page rank than the age of the domain.
    Domain age has more usefullness as a marketing enhancement item by a clever marketer, or a branding expert who can legitimately expressed within marketing collateral "established in 2005" or "Founded in 2000".

    There are companies who SELL dated domains, just like there are companies that sell dated Corporations. Both have their uses. In the case of the domain, domain age "alone" has no bearing on page rank.
     
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    I find old domains easier to rank if they are keyword rich domains. I buy mostly dropped domains and my results have been very good. You can find keyword rich domains, it just takes a little extra effort.

    That said, I'm not having a problem ranking new domains either. Maybe you just need to switch up your SEO strategy.
     
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    I have found that the biggest advantage to having an older domain is that they seem to be able to absorb links at a faster rate than a new domain. This means that I am able to ramp up the link building quicker without the adverse consequences I might have on a new domain. I also try and find older domains that have existing long term links so that will help as well. An older domain without any backlinks or PR will probably not be as useful.

    As for your copy of xrumer build yourself some web 2. properties to link to your site and then blast them instead of your money site.


     
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    Hello jb2008,

    From past experience ranking new or old domains have no difference in ranking on Google or other search engines.

    Do you have proof that old domains work better than new domains? I have a site that is 3 months old and is ranking on the first page of Google for a moderately competitive keyword of 12,000 exact searches a month and has even been given a page rank of 4, would an older domain make any difference? From my own experience, no.

    I highly recommend making your own test to see if older domains work better, Google may penalize your new links if they don?t look natural and that is where older domains may have a slight advantage, oh wait you?re just talking about old domains and not domains with established links.

    SEO forums tend to have a lot of myths and this is due to people just making assumptions.

    A buddy of mine recently spent $1400 on a PR6 domain (crazy right) because it had high quality links pointing to it, he simply created a page on that domain with some relevant content and links pointing to his site. Was it worth him investing $1400 on one domain? PM me and i?ll give you the URL to the domain and you can see for yourself.

    I?m just a new guy here and you must be thinking who the f*** am I? Well check out this link for another reference hxxp://w3.seomoz.org/blog/age-of-site-and-old-links-whiteboard-friday

    I hope what I have said helps

    Fathom
     
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    When you say "adverse consequences" do you mean specifically the sandbox? I want to be able to build a site and blast without it getting sandboxed for months.