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bulding a new sex/dating site and have some questions..

Discussion in 'Membership Sites' started by countrypolk, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. countrypolk

    countrypolk BANNED BANNED

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    looking to have a sex/dating site made that will NOT allow people to view any profiles until they sign up
    ( free 24 hour trial, if they do NOT cancel, they get billed )

    something like Aff , Fling, or Sexsearch

    i plan on making it just for me at first, once it's running smoothly, add some affiliates

    i plan on driving black hat traffic to the site, nothing iframed or anything, but they will be signing up, not really wanting to be members, just signing up for the free trial ONLY

    was thinking of email spamming say 50k messages a day, but since i will be the only marketer at first, will i have some major CAN-SPAM problems, or will the off-shore host/mailer take the heat if there is a problem

    or

    was thinking of marketing thru facebook or myspace, are there programs that will send out mass messages to all my friends on each network?

    and also...

    will i have a hard time finding the right merchant processing because of the black hat ways of getting members?
     
  2. waz11

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    have you done any E-whoring previously? Driving traffic to other peoples sites so that you can see how successfully you can do this?

    If you haven't my advice would be to give that a go first before jumping in the deep end and trying to set up a whole site and affiliate program. At least that way you can start to see how easy it is to get traffic and you can start to work out all your traffic sources first before you have invested anything in the back end without knowing if you will be successful or not.
     
  3. countrypolk

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    yes i ewhore currently for a few programs, mostly thru craigslist.com, i do very well, but have some other ideas for emailing, facebook, and myspace that i want to try out

    and want to do my own thing, not have to worry about 50-75% shaving and wether or not a program will pay on time or just run with my money

    i see quite a few places to buy the sites already built, would just want to make a small change or two and then add my merchant processing to it, shouldn't be that difficult....

    my main concerns were getting the right merchant

    wondering if it is even possible to market my own site with bulk/mass emailing, say 50-100k a day, or will i get in trouble with the can-spam, even tho i am using an offshore host, just wondering since it is just me, and probably easily tracable if this is even an option for now..

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    if there is way to buy facebook/myspace accounts, and then have a program go thru and mass message all of the people on my friends lists etc...


     
  4. HookUPcom2

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    I can tell you from years of experience, building a site that converts well is much more difficult than you are thinking. Brand - Name, Design, Systems... Email in boxing, number of members... And we don't just think about 1 sale like you're thinking... We are thinking member retention, and all that goes into that.

    Seeing that affiliates are making 50-60+% on rev share... Or $50+PPS payouts... How much is it going to cost to do all the things that need to be done? Tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    If your only driving a few sales a day, that is going to be tuff to make that up.

    So what next? Now you need an affiliate program and you need to promote that.
    And all of the GEO banners and creative that affiliates want.

    Good luck.
     
  5. StarBeltMarketer

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    What software or script are you using to build the site? I want to make a small niche membership site as well.
     
  6. countrypolk

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    for what i have in mind, branding won't make any difference.. the members profiles can be 100% fake, and wether or not i get some affiliates won't really be that big of a deal..

    and i have seen a few places that will make you a template for $100 or so, and i will just pay someone to make a few very small changes...

    merchant proccessing will be an issue because of chargebacks

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    sending the emails..

     
  7. countrypolk

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    anyone else with advise for me?
     
  8. Don Carlito

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    You need a lot of money man, it's not that easy like you think.

    If you do it, my advice buy banner traffic from sites like trafficholder.com/ , blacklabelads.com/ ,Traffic Junky....... it's really cheap
     
  9. countrypolk

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    domain/hosting $10-20

    buy a site template and change a few small things $100
    (have done this before finding people on CL)

    merchant proccessing, up to $500 - visa/mc/checks

    and then i drive my traffic...



    where do you think i am off?
     
  10. Joe563

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    ive set up a sex/dating site, im currently trying to get traffic to it but its hard man
     
  11. countrypolk

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    what is your site called?

    or pm me
     
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    Porn and dating. Hardest ones. You need a lot of money and tricks to get members coming back often. Hard to bet on keywords, no content etc. Gonna be hard, very hard to stand up.
     
  13. HookUPcom2

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    If your really good at driving traffic... Do that. Affiliates are paid most of the money anyhow. But... People tried to talk me out of starting a site too... And then I got the name HookUP.com and that made the difference. I think every other name we picked before that would have just ='d Failed Project.

    Good luck.
     
  14. Nick Flame

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    your main problem will be the merchant account - you should worry about that first, marketing and site building is piece of cake.
     
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    Yes, getting a fax on a Friday after noon to let you know that your only merchant account has just shut down your account for too many chargebacks, and all of the 100% ligitimate rebills that you had acquired to date would no longer rebill is a real bad day... The next few weeks of revenue until you can get approved, up and running... $0.00

    Not only a bad day but bad weeks... Hopefully you don't have so too many employees coming to work tomorrow. ;)
     
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    A few other costs to consider:

    - Cost to form legal entity.
    - Cost to create the actual dating engine/script so that you'll be able to manage the members (it's more than just using the paypal reoccuring billing)
     
  17. countrypolk

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    this does seem to be the hardest, they all say come back when the site is up and running..

    will a sex dating site like adult friend finder and fling be considered a high risk and need a high risk merchant account or do you think a regular merchant account is fine?

     
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    so do you have any words of wisdom to share for me?

     
  19. theconfidenceman

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    dating and sex is definately high risk (even if you are selling how-to courses) guys will make a purchase, and then the wife sees the bill, the guys will say they never charged it and the charge gets disputed. that niche gets alot of chargebacks.


     
  20. Jimmy2010

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    You biggest issue of course - chargebacks. it creates more work for the processing company and too many and they'll ban you and your site.

    So be very careful.