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BuildMyRank - Has anyone seen their rankings drop?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by blindboy, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. blindboy

    blindboy Junior Member

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    I've been using BMR for about 7 months now. Everything has been going fine until this weekend. 50% of my sites have lost rankings. Some have dropped a few places others have tanked to page 5.

    I am sure it is nothing to worry about but they have closed registration. And today they site isn't loading properly. Very slow!

    Anyone seen the same? How are your rankings?
     
  2. UltraLink

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    Well recently a crapton of networks were deindexed. Shortly after which BMR stopped taking on any new customers.

    I am guessing they were also pretty badly affected by the slap. Of course, this is all assumption and people with access to their live links can do a quick index check and confirm this.
     
  3. blindboy

    blindboy Junior Member

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    It does seem very likely this is the case. I managed to log into my account now and there are quite a few de-indexed. Impossible to tell how many.

    What a shame. It was a good network.
     
  4. ohaider

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    Gotta love the big G. This is why networks should stay relatively private and jack their prices up for access. I.e. limit to 100 people @ 2k a pop/yr.
     
  5. regmant

    regmant Regular Member

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    Just a quick spot check on some of my BMR posts from last month (all were indexed). Out of 10, 7 are still indexed - so I guess that some of their sites have been deindexed (from my tiny survey, 70% are still indexed - but like I say, a tiny survey so massive pinch of salt).
     
  6. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    You're over using these blog networks (my suspicion is this is your entire SEO strategy?)
    As a result, you're getting nailed.

    Seen it many many times of late... try actually SEOing for a change and create 10-20k Web 2.0s + a web 2.0 pyramid on top of them.
    Over-reliance = crappy stability

    I put out at least 5 times as many web 2.0 pyramids as I do blog network posts (which I also pyramid :) ). I also create a ton of blogs for myself each day, (5-7/day on average to build up my personal network now)
    I aim for 2000 Link Authority/BMR type links/week on a lot of my sites and 10-20k tier 1 web 2.0s + pyramids linking to my money site (and regular bookmarks from the only sites worth bookmarking from)

    Luckily I have a lot of accumulated credits at these blog networks + a lot of donated sites :)
     
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  7. talkmeow

    talkmeow Regular Member

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    Starting to think you're a troll bro.

    Not everybody has a magically tool that can submit to "20k 2.0 sites" like you do.
     
  8. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Yes, the people who I work with on this forum can attest to my trollness. :rolleyes:
    20k is easy, it's the tier 2s that take several days (since generally I let the tool do 100-200k web 2.0s, with interlinking)
     
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    I haven't seen much change in rankings but I don't watch rankings close enough to know for sure. Yesterday was better than average for me traffic-wise. SO I'm thinking my sites haven't been hit at this point.
     
  10. nik-0

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    20k web2.0's spreaded over 100 unique web2.0 sites as you've said before. So thats 200 links of the exact same web2.0 platform. Wouldn't that leave a footprint, I also read that when you get many links from the same domain (subdomain) that the links count less and less for each piece.

    Apart of that I agree with the other poster that your suggestions are total useless to 99.9% of the forum readers. You could just as well said that web2.0 pyramids play a larger role in ranking sites wtihout digging up these unrealistic numbers, it looks pretty pathetic to post that every single time that you get the chance. Oh look at me, I can post 20k web2.0's in 1 day and 100k web2.0's in a couple of days, I'm so great.
     
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  11. SuperLinks

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    Personally I believe that there's been a big algorithm update that affects
    websites who have been OVER optimizing their anchor texts.

    I'm still processing the data, but I track HUNDREDS of campaigns regularly
    all of which perform a variety of different linkbuilding techniques. Those sites
    that utilize services like BMR, and other blog networks, who DON'T diversify
    their incoming anchor texts have gotten hit, and hit HARD.

    The key is that services like BMR are great, if utilized properly. Don't rely on
    BMR, or any linkservice, as your be-all and end all. These days you need
    diversification across the board. My gut is telling me that Google's began to
    optimize the way that they count backlinks. The more artificial your backlinks
    appear, the lower the "trust" score.
     
  12. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    You "read" that "when you get many links from the same domain (subdomain)"?
    So no actual experience eh? no analysis of hyper competitive markets to check domain diversity?
    No indication that you understand the subdomain diversity of these links is very high? (3:1 ratio generally)?

    Cool... don't care.
    If 20k web 2.0s is unrealistic to you, you can rest assured that you'll never make a cent in this industry. I actually think my tools are too slow at present.

    I've seen this across the board as well of late.
    Especially since early Jan.
     
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  13. manny521

    manny521 Supreme Member

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    Your story rings true for me as you mentioned "this weekend"...my site got a severe google bitch slap that started on friday and ended on sunday afternoon...

    All my top ranked keywords that I optimize for got slaughtered in the rankings. I don't really use BMR, I might of purchased a few jobs from ops who placed some links in BMR for me, but I didn't overly rely on BMR for my links.

    Google did something starting on friday that affected me and it sounds like you too.

    I drank a few beers last night to try to calm my nerves.

    Life is never easy, just when I thought I had this seo thing figured out, I get punched in the face. Now its time to get back up and regain what I have lost. Best of luck to you!
     
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    Nik-0 has a point here, 200 links in the same domain, that's gotta punish the PR flow quite a bit, what tool are you using?

    And he's also right, it would be easier saying you swear by link pyramids..

    +Rep Manny521, you made my day with that post.
     
  15. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Not sure why you think this, but whatever...
    You clearly haven't been checking into how top sites in highly competitive niches rank (hint, it's not generally with 10k different domains, though domain diversity is rather easy to achieve)

    Also, I was discussing wider strategies involving how to send link juice to blog networks, not how to do web 2.0 blasts... :rolleyes: the point wasn't I "swear by" link pyramids, the point is how to energize all of these links and stabilize positions gained through both high and low quality links of all types. High PR network links aren't enough, you will bounce around like crazy (not to mention, with no energizing of these links, they will do next to nothing in the long term).

    This site ranks for "health insurance"
    https://www.majesticseo.com/reports...t?oq=www.chooseinsurers.net&IndexDataSource=H

    only 6000 domains coming in (10:1 ratio on backlinks/domains is actually rather good in fact)
    I've seen the results of 10k tier 1 web 2.0s + 100k tier 2 web 2.0s (xrumer/pliggs/SB into tier 2)... you have not I can only assume... It's highly stable and the ranking gains stick like glue. It's a great way to stick high PR network boosts as well.
    Cheers, and good luck with your blog network links that have no backbone.
     
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    Too many people are starting to rely on private blog networks.

    You know the big G doesn't like paid links and it really is only a matter of time before they deindex these types of networks.

    Use it as only a part of your overall SEO strategy. Like anything else, the key to success is diversification.
     
  17. Hogare

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    Hey expertpeon,

    The way you put it, it's like having ten web 2.0's in the second tier linking to your first tier.What kind of links do you do in the third tier?I mean, having 10 PR0 web 2.0's do diddly squat in terms of passing the juice.

    If you're using high PR comments,you must be scraping like crazy!For 100 thousand web 2.0's in the second tier you need what?A million high PR blog comments?
     
  18. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Oh really? any evidence at all of this? any evidence whatsoever?
    I can assure you the results are anything but "diddly squat"
    My 3rd tiers usually consist of 2-3 million SB comments and at least 500k Xrumer profiles (that's the easy part though)

    haha oh I see, you're PR obsessed.
    Hint: PR has next to nothing to do with rankings... all of those blogposts you make are PR0 as well.

    You realize if you had a million high PR d0follow URLs the last thing you should do with it would be to send it to a 2nd tier right? Just thought I'd clue you in.
     
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  19. Hogare

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    No evidence whatsoever.If that's really the case,then I'm going to get cracking right about now.I just wanted to know if that really works.I've seen your previous posts where you said that you backlink your backlinks with high PR blog comments.

    Wherever I've looked it's always about the incoming PR.
     
  20. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I never would waste high PR blog comments in this manner, I would send them direct to sites...
    It's not about incoming PR at all, that's something insane people like nik-0 believe.

    If juice was not passed you couldn't create PR out of these structures (and I assure you they do generate PR when I create them to link to my own blog network) Usually 100-200 web 2.0 tier 1s when set up in the this manner will generate a PR of 3
     
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