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Building Network of High Quality Web 2.0 Properties to link to money site - Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi everyone, I hope you're all doing well.

    Have recently stumbled upon a BST where the provider has built up a quality, niche specific network of web 2.0 properties and is now selling niche specific links. The results that are being provided seem to be quite good for most people who are ordering.

    So I've thought I might go ahead and try the same. I don't mind putting in the time to manually create a network of web 2.0 properties if I can command good SERP increases on demand. Plus, I don't need to worry about hosting charges, etc (associated with actually running a blog network of my own). Over all, the idea seems good.

    The only stumbling block I have is, how many links from each of the web 2.0 properties can I link back to the money site?

    The provider of the BST has no issue: as each new client is getting a link to their own site. The links are not repeatedly going to the same site. Obviously measures can be taken to ensure not all posts contain a link, and some outgoing links go to other sites, like authority sites in the niche, but if I build a network of 100 sites and have a link on each of them pointing to my money site - it seems like a lot of effort if I just stop there. So, can I make more than one link from each property pointing to the money site?

    There would be posts made in between on the properties, so it wouldn't be post after post linking to the money site.

    Thoughts?

    Kind Regards,
    Krzysiekz
     
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  2. ritesh

    ritesh Senior Member

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    Well make it look legit niche based web2.0. Try to link to authority sites and link to money sites in every 2nd/3rd post.
    There is no point running a web2.0 network for single website/niches. Try aiming broader niche network this way you can accommodate more wider sites.
    Look for articlewyz in BST section support 100 sites but approx 53 sites are usable. Works well provided you can take care of the content.
     
  3. radarsurge

    radarsurge Regular Member Premium Member

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    I've used some of these on the BST. I usually order a package and wait for the report (I'm usually too lazy to do it myself though!). Inherently, there are kinks that they have worked out that will take you time. Maybe it will save you time and give you a concrete strategy...
     
  4. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    I've ordered from the BST in question too, just so I can get a report and see how it is done.

    I also feel it might be a lot of effort just for one website, but in either case, at worst, I will have 100 or so web 2.0 properties with some good content on them, linking out to authority sites + my money site, and they'll be there forever as the quality will be solid. Maybe after I get those 100 links, I won't need any more in either case, since people are showing awesome results with even 30 links from niche web 2.0 properties.

    In either case, this is an idea for people to think about as it doesn't have the costs or other pit falls of running your own blog network (you have to try and avoid footprints, SEO hosting, domain costs, etc) and is easily accessible to anyone. I personally think it's a pretty good idea. I've ordered 10 niche web 2.0 posts from the BST provider and I am hoping to see some movement on some easy terms.

    Kind Regards
     
  5. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    My thoughts are really simple on this matter:

    1. can you control your web 2.0?
    2. are you sure that within next 3 months no one will remove them just "because"
    3. would all your effort and time into building a network or society of web2.0 would be better spent on just few domains that you own and can actually control
    4. are you sure that once you start building links to those sites, they wont go down for any unforeseen reason thus rendering your whole effort to nil.

    Just my thoughts.

    If you want to have a solid good looking tier1 links - build your own net of sites. hosting and management soft is easy peasy and cheap.

    Just my $0.02
     
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    cloakndagger2 Regular Member

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    I think the same way,do cheap websites and charge clients hosting,this way your hosting is free for your own network.Everything is slowly moving to having you rown private network and done right it is not detectable.
     
  7. T2tkid

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    Do you mind linking to the provider? Am looking to purchase some niche web2.0's to my money site. Thanks.
     
  8. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    The truth of the matter is, what you have outlined above applies to all link building. The only link building it does not apply to is for your own blog network, where you own and host the websites yourself. However, those links are only a part of SEO & any other links you build anywhere else are susceptible to the problems you outlined above. That doesn't mean we shouldn't build links other than privately own blog network links, because that itself is not enough.

    The web 2.0 blogs would be manually made, quality properties. They'd have little to no reason for being deleted if done properly.

    Having said that, I would be interested in hosting and management of my own blog network but from what I've read, hosting and management is not all that easy, especially if you're trying to eliminate any footprints that might suggest you own all of the sites.

    Can you share more about the hosting and management side of things?
     
  9. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Not truem it is not that hard with proper tools. I have been doing this for over a year now (since G nuked all the big networks) and developer own software to manage the whole deal. And with some instruction it is very easy - pick up aged expired PR domain, get a hosting, put it up and have a decent soft to control your network. That's about it. Takes me on average about 30mins/day to update/curate content for 40 blogs.

    Hosting - either cheap cloud hosting (no fixed IP for blogs) or hosting with multiple geo locations (like hostnine.com reseller accounts - $25/mo)
    Domains - there are plenty of sites where to pick up good expired domains and paying only default registrar's fee (10-11$ per domain)
    Software to manage blog network - check my signature, you will find it interesting.
     
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  11. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply Andy. I was not aware of cloud hosting (and not having fixed IP's). This seems pretty good.

    I am sure automating the whole posting of content to your blog can easily be handled by ZennoPoster. Especially so because your sites are unlikely to change and so you would not be required to update your templates often at all. Not sure if you have heard of, or used ZennoPoster, but I am confident it would be good for your needs. In either case, it seems you have a solution all worked out, so no big deal and you probably don't need any recommendations.

    I will be checking out your signature link now, but I wanted to ask: with your network of 40 blogs, are they niche targeted (ie: all in the dental niche to provide links to your dental site) or are they generic/non niche-specific sites that you use to link out to all of your money sites? Further, do you see good SERP benefits from the network of 40 sites?

    Sounds like an interesting idea, especially since you've clarified a bit for me. I think I might be interested in giving it a shot. Would be pleased to hear more about the results you achieve from that number of blogs.

    Thank you (+rep added).


    EDIT: I See you are pushing another software/service so ZennoPoster is not for you, but I would still appreciate your input on the other questions!
     
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