Building a 4G mobile proxy farm.

derregenrennt

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Inspired by a recent discussion on this forum I am looking to build a 4g mobile proxy farm. Primarily, I am doing this for my own botting/scraping purposes but I figured if I am doing this anyway I can look to sell these as well.

Where I am at:

I have decided that for my setup I am going to use following to start:
  • Proxysmart
    • I have seen other services use this software and it seems like an affordable and reliable solution to manage the proxies
  • Huawei E3372/ZTE MF79U Dongle
    • I already had some of these and ordered a couple of new ones and the connection speed is alright (around 20-25 Mbit/s).
  • MINIS FORUM Mini PC U820
    • Probably overkill but I also have some of these laying around. Should be able to handle a good amount of dongles.
  • Orico 20 Port Industrial USB Hub
    • Ordered this as it was recommended to me.
  • German Vodafone sim cards
    • I got 10 of these at a competitive price. Might add o2 as a carrier if there is demand.
So far I have set up the mini PC as a server to handle the dongles, set up a vps to make the proxies available outside my network. I've done some simple testing and the proxies seem to be working just fine. Haven't really ran into any issues yet. I have also started working on a simple frontend for my website. So far I have mostly finished product, pricing, contact, tos, imprint and the privacy pages.

Next Steps:

My immediate to-do list is as follows:
  • Build backend and connect to proxysmart api
  • Integrate auth, payment, dashboard, api, api-documentation on the website. I'm probably forgetting something but those are my main focus for now.
  • Validate Sales
    • Before I scale or build intricate infrastructure I want to see if these proxies sell well at all. I've only found around 6 other sellers of dedicated german proxies and they all seem to be low on stock or even out of stock. I am not sure if this is a good or a bad sign. There are a lot of providers who sell their proxies by traffic. I assume this is because a lot of them are legacy resellers and back in the old days selling by connection wasn't viable. If anyone knows why do so many proxy providers only sell by traffic and not via dedicated connection?
    • I am also taking some time to identify possible sales channels. For now I'm thinking forums, discords and telegrams in relevant niches. I also have 3 people in my network that are doing seo and e-commerce automation. Maybe they have demand for proxies.
Current blockers:
  • I have 2 landlines at my office. One is fast but horribly unreliable the other is slow but super stable. Since both are not really viable for my purposes I am left with two options.
    • Setting up a 5G network in my office to forward the proxies as I get around 300 Mbit/s (will need to do additional tests when the weather is bad as that may impact speeds significantly). I was planning on doing this anyway for the office so there isn't too much additional overhead.
    • Forwarding the proxies via the individual dongles. I will probably try this but I am not to confident about the approach as the speeds are not.

I am just getting into this so there are probably a couple of things that I am not thinking of currently so if anybody has experience in this field that they are willing to share, I would welcome it. Sales is the biggest question mark for me currently so if anyone has any advice or pointers I would especially appreciate that.

Special thanks to @lucky.sparks and @Bers666 , they were willing to share their knowledge on this forum and made hardware selection rather easy.
 
You think there would be demand for unlimited data, Croatian 4g proxys? Speed would be around 30-50mbits. I could get cheap tourist sim cards with unlimited data for a month and then repeat the whole thing.
 
Proxysmart
  • I have seen other services use this software and it seems like an affordable and reliable solution to manage the proxies
This is, by far, the best thing you can do

Personally I've been stucked without using my new ZTE proxies for a while now just because I never find the time to dev an inhouse solution using the modem's API, which is very tedious.

And they not only support MF79U but MF79N which is super-easy available (and I never found the MF79N API and new firmware to support the new USSD so I wonder how they have been able to support it).

If you get a good amount of proxies and you have a good volume, it can cost barely less than $1/mo for a full support, which is peanuts.

I think that I may also consider them anytime soon even for a couple of ZTE proxies I have (just to give them some good use ASAP)
 
You think there would be demand for unlimited data, Croatian 4g proxys? Speed would be around 30-50mbits. I could get cheap tourist sim cards with unlimited data for a month and then repeat the whole thing.
I have no idea to be honest. I myself am still trying to gauge the actual demand for mobile proxies.
This is, by far, the best thing you can do

Personally I've been stucked without using my new ZTE proxies for a while now just because I never find the time to dev an inhouse solution using the modem's API, which is very tedious.

And they not only support MF79U but MF79N which is super-easy available (and I never found the MF79N API and new firmware to support the new USSD so I wonder how they have been able to support it).

If you get a good amount of proxies and you have a good volume, it can cost barely less than $1/mo for a full support, which is peanuts.

I think that I may also consider them anytime soon even for a couple of ZTE proxies I have (just to give them some good use ASAP)
The software has worked like a charm so far. The documentation is solid and has made setting things up a breeze. The cost is also negligible compared to the sim costs.
 
I have no idea to be honest. I myself am still trying to gauge the actual demand for mobile proxies.

The software has worked like a charm so far. The documentation is solid and has made setting things up a breeze. The cost is also negligible compared to the sim costs.
Furthermore, I was looking into the Proxidize option, but after I read about the "scandal" with their Better Know program (people paid like $1K+ to do the same as you are doing with ProxySmart, but self-made, and they removed all the infrastructure in barely 1 year to start promoting their own service instead of letting the program users keep their paid program+software). So I would not trust them knowing this.

Imagine how many modems and how many months one could have done with $1K on ProxySmart. I could have set all my modems, both ZTE and Huawei, on just one software, at least 20 modems for almost 20 years with that money. By that time, we will have 10G proxies....
 
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This is, by far, the best thing you can do

Personally I've been stucked without using my new ZTE proxies for a while now just because I never find the time to dev an inhouse solution using the modem's API, which is very tedious.

And they not only support MF79U but MF79N which is super-easy available (and I never found the MF79N API and new firmware to support the new USSD so I wonder how they have been able to support it).

If you get a good amount of proxies and you have a good volume, it can cost barely less than $1/mo for a full support, which is peanuts.

I think that I may also consider them anytime soon even for a couple of ZTE proxies I have (just to give them some good use ASAP)
What's the difference between MF79U and MF79N?
 
Inspired by a recent discussion on this forum I am looking to build a 4g mobile proxy farm. Primarily, I am doing this for my own botting/scraping purposes but I figured if I am doing this anyway I can look to sell these as well.

Where I am at:

I have decided that for my setup I am going to use following to start:
  • Proxysmart
    • I have seen other services use this software and it seems like an affordable and reliable solution to manage the proxies
  • Huawei E3372/ZTE MF79U Dongle
    • I already had some of these and ordered a couple of new ones and the connection speed is alright (around 20-25 Mbit/s).
  • MINIS FORUM Mini PC U820
    • Probably overkill but I also have some of these laying around. Should be able to handle a good amount of dongles.
  • Orico 20 Port Industrial USB Hub
    • Ordered this as it was recommended to me.
  • German Vodafone sim cards
    • I got 10 of these at a competitive price. Might add o2 as a carrier if there is demand.
So far I have set up the mini PC as a server to handle the dongles, set up a vps to make the proxies available outside my network. I've done some simple testing and the proxies seem to be working just fine. Haven't really ran into any issues yet. I have also started working on a simple frontend for my website. So far I have mostly finished product, pricing, contact, tos, imprint and the privacy pages.

Next Steps:

My immediate to-do list is as follows:
  • Build backend and connect to proxysmart api
  • Integrate auth, payment, dashboard, api, api-documentation on the website. I'm probably forgetting something but those are my main focus for now.
  • Validate Sales
    • Before I scale or build intricate infrastructure I want to see if these proxies sell well at all. I've only found around 6 other sellers of dedicated german proxies and they all seem to be low on stock or even out of stock. I am not sure if this is a good or a bad sign. There are a lot of providers who sell their proxies by traffic. I assume this is because a lot of them are legacy resellers and back in the old days selling by connection wasn't viable. If anyone knows why do so many proxy providers only sell by traffic and not via dedicated connection?
    • I am also taking some time to identify possible sales channels. For now I'm thinking forums, discords and telegrams in relevant niches. I also have 3 people in my network that are doing seo and e-commerce automation. Maybe they have demand for proxies.
Current blockers:
  • I have 2 landlines at my office. One is fast but horribly unreliable the other is slow but super stable. Since both are not really viable for my purposes I am left with two options.
    • Setting up a 5G network in my office to forward the proxies as I get around 300 Mbit/s (will need to do additional tests when the weather is bad as that may impact speeds significantly). I was planning on doing this anyway for the office so there isn't too much additional overhead.
    • Forwarding the proxies via the individual dongles. I will probably try this but I am not to confident about the approach as the speeds are not.

I am just getting into this so there are probably a couple of things that I am not thinking of currently so if anybody has experience in this field that they are willing to share, I would welcome it. Sales is the biggest question mark for me currently so if anyone has any advice or pointers I would especially appreciate that.

Special thanks to @lucky.sparks and @Bers666 , they were willing to share their knowledge on this forum and made hardware selection rather easy.
Your system looks very decent. Good luck with your journey!!
 
Good luck! I'm going to open one too and gathered the same informations.
What do you think about a collaboration? My proxies will be in a different country than yours
 
Your system looks very decent. Good luck with your journey!!
Your technical knowledge looks. Solid .even for sales if u keep promoting they will happen eventually
Thank you!

Good luck! I'm going to open one too and gathered the same informations.
What do you think about a collaboration? My proxies will be in a different country than yours
If you have any questions, feel free to reach out!


Update
After a busy week my partner and I found some more time to work more on this.

We've decided to try the t3 stack to build this out instead of going for the usual python backend. We are using drizzle instead of prisma but apart from that we are sticking to all the included components. I am mostly pleasantly surprised so far by how easy everything is. However, why is there always some random shit that has to be done in a new way whenever I start a new project. It took me at least 15 minutes to figure out why fonts aren't being loaded as expected just to find out they changed some shit again.

Anyway, we were able to come up with a more planned out site structure, and got our stack running in it's basic form. Auth is also done.

Next steps are:
  • Map out and implement database schemas
  • Coming up with the logic to handle the proxies and all the things that relate to them such as payment, fullfilment, management, etc.
  • Implementing said logic
  • Ordering more hardware and sim-cards
My partner is way more technical than me so if I am missing anything it's probably because he's the one thinking of it and not me lol.

We are planning to allocate more time to this on the evenings this week. So hopefully I can share more updates.
 
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