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Buddy got a angry letter announcing a complaint of compensation...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SebastianJu, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    A buddy of mine has a hosting-business, or better said its more than that because he does everything serverrelated. More a kind of serveradmin.
    Anyway... he got an angry mail from a businesspartner claiming that he didnt switch 2 domains to different c-class(i guess) ips. So they were on the same ip.

    The business partner claims he has paid for massive linkbuilding and now when the ip is changed this seo has lost value.

    I dont know why this happened... i guess he simply forgot to change the ip.

    So now the business partner is announcing compensations.

    My question is... what size of compensation could he demand because of the controversal discussed point of hosting at different c-class-ips? I mean I probably could hand him out 10 seos claiming there is no effect in using different c-class-ips as far as i remember statements in bhw. (the domains are even on the same host with same whois and google as a registrar probably can see anything it wants).

    So is this something to worry about? That he would have to pay when he wants to keep his business partner as a business partner letting aside. As far as i saw the fee that partner pays and the work he is making isnt in a good correlation anyways. But im interested how the thing would end probably...

    Thanks!
     
  2. Danny1111

    Danny1111 Elite Member

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    Seems stupid to me. .. But your friend did not do what he was told to do so he is in the wrong.

    I actually agree changing it now probably makes no difference because google is smart they will get the link juice right over time.
     
  3. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    thats litigation for you

    its like suing your chiropractor because he increased your back pain.

    How would you prove (or disprove) the extent of damage he was responsible for.

    Whoever has the most money, and the best dressed expert will win.
     
  4. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    Ok... he didnt do what he should but for demanding compensation there would need to be a damage. A damage basing on a myth couldnt be forced to pay when seostatements are given that deny this damage isnt it?

    But maybe you mean it was a break of contract? Maybe... i dont know the contract. When the contract contains a timeframe in that such changes has to be done the contract would probably be broken. But this would only mean the business partner can stop the contract too. The damage still would need proof.

    @tony

    I dont know what sizes of money are in the game so I dont know if any part would go that far but if they will it would probably lead to a expert-dispute at the court.
     
  5. Autumn

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    A change in IP might cause a temporary dip in rankings but it shouldn't cause any irreparable harm to rankings or link building. Links go to domains, not to IPs, and if the partner is extensively interlinking two domains and expecting that to translate to rankings then he's mad.

    On one hand your friend didn't do what he was supposed to do, on the other hand the onus is also on the partner to check the set up before embarking on expensive link building.

    Sounds like your friend needs a business partner who isn't a complete douchebag.
     
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  6. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    I got more informations...

    It were 20 Domains and 10 IPs. 2 Domains should be hosted at one IP. The business partner booked backlinking to each domain for 99?. Which means costs of 1980?.

    So now the business partner says he will watch the ranking and when its not doing like normal he will charge my buddy the full 1980?.

    The problem of the business partner seems to be that he thinks that it hurts the google ranking when chaning the ip. And my buddy said that he experienced that when he once changed the ip at a own website his website wasnt be found for a month or so in google. I never heard of such thing.

    So what do you think?

    I dont think my buddy has the correct business plan for this special business partner. He thinks he has no more than 20 hours of work per month with this partner. I doubt that really. At least he promised me that he will make a list of all the time he is spending into it. Then we can see whats the real rate of euro per hour.