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Bst service owner becareful of fraudulent orders

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by cocococo, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. cocococo

    cocococo Senior Member

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    From january till date have had over 15 fraudulent orders few from same person I assume, I tried everything I can to stop fraudulent orders some still get passed 2checkout.

    Be careful guys.
     
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  2. innozemec

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    thanks for the warning, but it will be usful if you can provide any info about the guy doing that...

    now you simply said to watch out for fraudsters on the internet :)
     
  3. cocococo

    cocococo Senior Member

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    If your selling seo services, let assume you have 15 keywords for a package, they usually only provide 1, how could someone paying over $300 for a package and they are allowed certain phrases but only give you 1.

    Also if your using 2co, always match the billing country, and the IP country, I have seen a lot of discrepancy with this.

    Edit to add: I was going to put all the info here, but having to refund about $700 this morning is hurting. This guys seem to come from indonesia, but uses american information. 2co just seem to passed this order through.
     
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  4. mseostrategy

    mseostrategy BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah recently one person fraudulent with my 2CO account,
    FAILED: These sales have been determined to be fraudulent, and have already been canceled, no further action is necessary.
    Order ID 46******3.

    Screen Shoot:
    refund.jpg

    This persons name at BHW saonbd.

    Take care...
     
  5. jbinkley

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    Thanks for the warning.
    Do you see any recurring names, emails or IP's?
     
  6. cocococo

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    This is why I like 2co,, they can failed orders deem fraudulent however, some orders are getting passed, so what else can you do than to fulfill the order.
     
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  7. wowhaxor

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    Thanks for the heads up.

    Online sales, especially in SEO forums, tend to have higher than normal fraud rates. In my experience BHW is a little better than DP which has been the worst and WF is in the middle.

    I don't use 2CO but as an example I use Plimus which is very good with anti fraud (in fact some legit transactions get put into a queue for me to review and they match IPs to decline people ordering for other countries than their PP, etc. as well as verify the person also has access to the PP associated e-mail) and they allow me to see IPs of purchasers. You could shit list and PM a mod the IP to see if it matches an account if you have access to that. Just a thought.
     
  8. cocococo

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    I have access to the IP they use, I will gather all this and send it to a MOD
     
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    Great, people like you help us all to stay safe with selling our services, thanks given.
     
  10. proxygo

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    If he/she is ordering and you can determine the main url... I'm sure some bad karma could be thrown it's way.... Just sayin.... ;) - Sorry the devil made me say it...
     
  12. proxygo

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    5$ fraud orders so lame , broke ass needs a job
     
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  13. audioguy

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    LOL. I'm from Indonesia. With my own card, 2CO always have to verify manually before getting payments through. That took a day but now only a few minutes but still...

    I'm amazed when all my data match, they do that, but fail to detect fraud even in those cases when they are so obvious. I mean, this should be the time when they should get suspicious.
     
  14. saonbd

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    So you are introducing me as a fraud? Hey man, I am from bangladesh and I am also using paypal. So, if your 2checkout denied my transaction what can I do? Listen, you are not first service provider at bhw. I already purchased more then 5 service here and they didn't say about any fraud transaction. Wanna see some proof? There are many people from different country where paypal not supporting. So are they never using paypal? Shame with you, what kind of service provider you are? You don't have minimum experience. Okay I am showing my proof. At first for this fraud transaction I opened a thread on BHW, take a look at this:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...43046-not-good-experience-me-totally-not.html
    The thread was opened on 14-03-2013. Now look at my all transaction receipt among with 2checkout confirmation receipt:

    1st one for paypal receipt:
    proof 1.jpg

    Now this one of 2checkout confirmation:

    proof 2.jpg

    After 3 days later 2checkout refund my money here is the proof:

    proof 3.jpg

    So, they target this as a fraudlent transaction for unsupporting paypal country. I am living on bangladesh and here Paypal not supporting, so are you trying to say my paypal dollar is not dollar and they are only "White PAPER"?
     
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    1 more thing to say, I ordered you for just 5$. This was not a huge amount. And I can't remember you. I purchased the service from "mseostrategy". Are you the same guy?
     
  16. cocococo

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    What are you smoking dude? I never named name, I didn't say it was you whatsoever, just a thread alerting BST owners to take due deligence.
     
  17. proxygo

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    mseostrategy named him not you