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Brother, Can You Spare a Tip?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by MontyzPython, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. MontyzPython

    MontyzPython BANNED BANNED

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    So here's the deal...

    Last month, I made $5.65 on AdSense...that was my third month of really trying to make money on the web (I had that wrong in my other post).

    So far in November, $1.65. Embarrassing, I know.

    Here's the deal. I'm 36 with 3 great kids and a full-time day job as a mortgage broker that I would love to ditch.

    If someone could teach me a few pointers, it would make my day. Heck, even making $10 to $20 per day would be SOMETHING.

    I'm spending all of my free time at home on the web and not spending enough time with the kids. I am GOING to figure it out sooner or later. I want to watch them grow up, not spend all day working at some 'job'.

    If someone is interested in showing me a few things, I do have ONE AdSense secret that I figured out. You guys might already know about it, but maybe not. I would appreciate it, though, if you really KNOW something and have some experience.

    Let me know. Thanks, gang-at-Cheers. :)

    - Chris
     
  2. Nick Flame

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    man , there is so many information on the web and in this forum, that i do not know what extra tip you need. Try to focus on one of the methods presented here, work hard, and you will succeed.

    I do not want to be mean, but your adsense secret does not seem to be very successful according to your stats.
     
  3. MontyzPython

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    Well, you do have a point there. I don't use it very much because I think Big G would probably catch on to it.

    I have read a bunch of the threads. I think I just need a '101' on stuff like 'cloaking', 'php', etc.

    It seems like you have to be an IT guru to understand some of this stuff.

    I'll figure it out eventually.

    - Chris
     
  4. Ruck

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    If it's one thing I know, it's not to put all your eggs in 1 basket, especially if it's with the big dickhead. As far as your secret and Google catching on to it, it sounds like the one thing you got going for you could very likely ending up to amount to $0.00 next month.

    Yea, it's a blackhat forum but you will never see me as someone who works fulltime from home advising people to "bite the hands that feed them".

    You don't *need* to know cloaking or php unless that's something that you want to chase. Right now your in the position of deciding what you want to pursue. As soon as you figure that out, your going to get more detailed specific responses from people in the same field. It's hard for people to give up their secrets and even harder for people who know it, to retract day in and day out to repeat things that have been said tons of times. I know, because I find myself doing it daily.

    So set down and draw up a plan. See where you want to go and imagine where you want to be. What particular aspect of making money online interests you the most, AND if that aspect is something you can easily learn and adapt to. If you can't learn fast and adapt fast than you can't move fast.

    As far as being a mortgage broker, congrats on that, and congrats on the kids, I myself have two sons and a little girl on the way. I have flipped properties before but never brokered, so we have something in common.

    But figure out your interests first. If you pursue something you hate or not good at it, it is very easy to get discouraged and we can't have that. We need you to be doing something you enjoy so that when you start reaping rewards it will be a better feeling than making money from something you hate.

    I think since you want to leave your job, you will get a lot out of that last paragraph than most people do when they start out.

    Best,
    Ruck
     
  5. HaRRo

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    Heres my idea, you work as a mortgage broker?

    LOL bring a nice notepad to work, jot down all the leads you get in work, keep them until you get home.

    Sign up to a mortgage affiliate when you get home.
    Get a lot of proxys, and one by one submit there details to the mortgage affiliate program.
    Best bet is youll earn a ton lol
     
  6. Ruck

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    OMG,

    I ain't going to respond to that method positively or negatively
    cuz quite frankly it's pretty damn smart if your really blackhat.
     
  7. HaRRo

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    Who my comment Ruck?
     
  8. Ruck

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    Yea,

    I found it hilarious man. I really didn't
    have a response as it was something I personally
    would have never said or done, but I got to hand
    it to ya, it's a slick idea man.
     
  9. HaRRo

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    Well thats my speciality using ideas that nobody else would to profit.

    :) But honestly thats what i would do if i was him because you could use 1 lead to 5 loan affiliate programs, usually get around $100+ per lead.

    So 1 lead = $500 ;) use your imagination but id never quit the job lmao
     
  10. MontyzPython

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    Ha! That IS a pretty good idea. I earn about $1,000 if I close the loan myself, though, so I don't think I would 'broker it out'.

    The problem, as I'm sure you know, is that the real estate and mortgage markets are crap right now and things are slowing down. What I SHOULD do i pick up a couple of rental props while prices are coming down.

    RUCK,

    Getting back to your reply (thank you, by the way), right now I have one blog on fatherhood that I've had for about a year (thesuperdad.blogspot.com) and another on one of my favorite things, pro wrestling (prowrestlingscoop.blogspot.com).

    I post to the 'dad' one a couple of times a week and I update the wrestling one several times a day.

    I'm running AdSense on both and have some affiliate banners and such up them. I frequently "Digg" my wrestling posts using another username on Digg.

    I'm running about 100 - 200 hits per day on that site. About 20 - 30 on the 'daddy' blog.

    I can work the Blogger template like a mofo. I just need to learn some basic web design skills so I can move on to creating actual websites. Maybe a Maryland Fun Family Activities site or something. There are a few ClickBank programs I could push through a 'family site' too.

    Still, none of this is 'black hat' and there must be other ways to clean up big time. Any other thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

    - Chris
     
  11. Nick Flame

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    It is much better to start with whitehat and then turn to blackhat. You get a lot of experience from white hat sites and techniques, and then you know how to blackhat these techniques.

    Moreover, if you start with whitehat, and then slowly turn to blackhat, you have a sense of how much you can push blackhatting things such that you are not going to be banned, by the monetizing companies or such.

    I know a lot of people who had no idea about im, started blackhatting, making several thousands first month, and bang get banned and lost all their money.
    In blackhat, you have to know how much to push and how much to use. In the same time, built on a whitehat business, blackhat business is NOT a very stable income, if you are not highly innovative.

    If you want to quit your job and work online, invest in white hat business. A method may work today and make you thousands, and after a small change, the next day, you can t make anything with it. IF you are not ready to switch easily between different blackhat techniques, and more over if you are not able to invent new blackhat techniques, you are not going to have a reliable and sustainable income.
     
  12. MontyzPython

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    So you are saying to start out as Anakin and THEN, gradually go a little Darth Vader once I'm banking some coin.

    That makes sense to me.

    I think I will go check out the "White Hat" forum for a bit and see what I can come up with.

    - Chris

    P.S. - There is an "Old Hat, New Hat", Dr. Seuss joke in there somewhere.
     
  13. Essential Clix

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    Well spoken, sir.
     
  14. WINNA36

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    here check this thread i just opened.. im sure it shud help ya.. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/2233-just-been-given-very-usefull.html
     
  15. MontyzPython

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    Hey, thanks. Interesting blog. One entry...created...today.

    I have done some things like this in the past. I joined both http://www.sendearnings.com/?r=montydad5000 and http://www.tiktikcash.com/?refId=728451.

    Between the two, I've made about $20 - $30. No reason I couldn't double or triple that pretty easily.

    I'll check this link out. Looks like this might be good too.

    Thanks.

    - Chris
     
  16. MaestroDelWeb

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    Hey monty you have something going for you. You know something about a business that everyone spends money on....mortgages. I have some mortgage sites and they are some of my best converting sites.

    Create one or two page mortgage sites and throw ads all over the place. Google or YPN text ads and other affiliate page programs. Of course since you're in the business create unique content. For the next couple of days think of some niches in the mortgage industry, write them down. Then twenty minutes of your time writing an article, a free template you get somewhere, ten minutes of copying and pasting ad code and the article into Dreamweaver, FrontPage, or any WYSIWYG editor, 10 more minutes slapping on a logo you got somewhere for free and adding links to your other sites. In forty minutes you have a legit site. Make two or three of these with an article or two on each.

    Then use those same articles Markov them and/or use a program that can expand the content into multiple pages and create several more sites.

    There are some great niches in the mortgage industry and the clicks on Adsense and YPN are usually (at least for me) over $1 each. I'm not going to tell you the exact niches because I make money on originating, clicks, selling leads and stuff like that from my sites. Yes it's good to have state licenses. I make money on referrals for having professional licenses and I suggest anyone that can to get as many as they can. Refer out as much business as you can, make money off of the ads and come out the winner on every end. In mortgage you can't legally refer out, but you can do the 1003, collect docs, and there are companies out there that without having to switch companies will allow you to use their licenses in states you aren't licensed.
     
  17. MontyzPython

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    Thanks for the ideas. I might just try to do some of that on the side. With the mainstream mortgage biz slowing down a bit, I'll take all the income streams I can get.

    Can't feed the kids Mac n' Cheese EVERY night...well, maybe I can.

    - Chris
     
  18. rannybo

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    If its adsense income that you want you must remember that content is king, whether unique or not. It's hard to come up with unique content unless you just love writing or have a big bank account to start spending on writers to make content for you. I would say that whatever niche you are in to make sure that you have rss feeds on your site that you can upload to rss syndication websites. Doing this will have other webmasters who are looking for content to display your website content on their website and in return provide you with a backlink.

    Backlinks are great and all, but only part of the battle. I have a website now with only about 24 backlinks and is on the first page on Google for every keyword related to my niche. I think my biggest accomplishment for having search engine position is keyword density. My content is unique but hasn't been updated for almost 9 months now. Once you have been established on the web for a while that also helps search engine position. Just write articles about your niche or expertise and submit to all article directories with some free article directory submitter and sit back and watch your cents grow.

    Just remember that working with adsense isn't some get rich quick over night scheme, it takes time trust me. I'm just now receiving consistent clicks daily on one of my websites. And to be mediocre successful with adsense you need like 500 clicks a day. Right now from the way you sound you only have like maybe 3 a day. Drive traffic to your website by any means because none of the major search engines are going to give you first postion just because they think you site is cute. Traffic, traffic, traffic. Find out about all of the ways to drive traffic (*organic* or paid) to your website. Maybe someone else in this forum can add to this post that I forgot talk about in general for theirs alot more than what I just typed here. Happy internet marketing :rolleyes:
     
  19. MontyzPython

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    Hey, thanks for the tips, bud. Last night, I went on and created a MySpace and Facebook account to promote my wrestling blog. I then joined a bunch of pro wrestling groups.

    I might do the same for my fatherhood / parenting blog tonight once I see if I get any results. I know I won't see anything overnight but sometimes, the journey is half the fun.

    Thanks.