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Bringing family members into IM

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mqsss, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. mqsss

    mqsss Regular Member

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    Have you ever try to do something similar?

    My dad lost his job recently and he has enough funds for about 6-8 months of living before a disaster happens. Now I taught him how to setup a WP, I taught him some basics of affiliate marketing, I gave him my Longtail Pro license and Majestic subscription, and we'll get into SEO coaching this week when he sets up his first website. I gave him a couple of niches and products that I had on a waiting period, we found his first domain a few days ago, I bought shitloads of servers and I'm gonna give him access to my PBNs. The good thing is that he is a programmer and he's learning fast, but his programming skills aren't needed as much nowadays, so this might be his best shot to start earning at least as much money as he did at his former 9-5 job.

    The only thing I'm afraid of right now is the time (6-8 months). I can feel the pressure, but I'll try to squeeze the best out of it. I'm on a level where I can make enough investments for my own projects and live a decent life, but I'm planning on getting my shit on a higher level in these 6 months, so even if things don't go as planned for my dad, I believe that I'll be able to support anyone of my family that has problems with 9-5 job. This is the best motivation I have had in my life. Nothing motivates me more than the plan of being able to make lives of my family members easier.

    And one of the funnier things is that he's gonna join BHW. If the plan with my dad succeeds, you can tell others that it's never too late to become an affiliate marketer. :)

    The goal: At least $2000 per month with his affiliate earnings, then launching a LLC together and bring that company into the fucking stratosphere.

    You know where I got that line from. :D

     
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  2. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Good luck, very nice goal to achieve. My only piece of advice is that some people respond well to "back on the wall" stress and some don't. If your father is in the latter category, have him make a profile at careers.stackoverflow.com and apply for multiple positions. This way he will have in his mind "another option" that will reduce stress and let him work on your instructions more efficiently.
     
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    I agree with @jazzc
     
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    Now that's cool! I've tried to get my friend into this - he made $500 the first month but then we both had to stop our campaigns due to legal reasons. Trying to get him back but now into affiliate marketing, it is hard teaching him how to do keyword research and the whole concept of SEO. We will work on it though. He might need to join BHW as well actually! :)

    Best of luck to both you and your father! :)
     
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    I wish you and your dad all the luck in the world m8. Not that you need luck, you seem to know exactly what the deal is.

    +1 This is solid advice.


     
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    Best of luck man! I really hope you and your dad get through this small inconvenient in your lifes :(
     
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    Yea, agree with Jazzc as well, always good to keep options open, but hopefully your plan works out well.
     
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    My dad is lazy. He wants me to do all the work and he collects half the money. Oh and did I mention he won't invest money? He just thinks I'm supposed to hand him solutions, work on them and make him some money. This is why he's working at WM.

    Anyway, OP, I'm glad your dad isn't like mine. Shoot for the moon. :)
     
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    Good luck man, some part is matching my situation that is wanting to make family members happy and want them to live luxury life along with me, never give a fuck about money in remaining years of their life.
     
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  10. mqsss

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    Thanks guys. Well he's learning other programming languages that are more needed right now and he's still looking for a new job. But even if he finds it, I'll advise him to stick to what I'll teach him and hopefully he's gonna drop the 9-5 jobs anyway in the near future. I'm sure that 99.99% of you agree that 9-5 sucks big time when you find the IM stuff.

    This loosing job shit has already happened once a couple years ago, but I wasn't on a level where I could help him a lot. He tried Fiverr, Freelancer and Odesk, but he didn't get a lot in return. He was outbid at Freelancer every time and he made couple of $1000 on Fiverr in like 6 months. But he worked too damn hard for those couple of 1000s.

    I'm amazed how prepared he is for this. His work ethics are on a much higher level than mine, I can bet my life on that. He was a programmer for all of his life and he is used to sit behind a computer all day. Unlike me, he doesn't give a shit about Facebook, Youtube, and other distractions. I bet that with his motivation, he's gonna succeed with this in no time and I'm gonna be a supervisor. Tomorrow we'll meet and grab a cup of coffee together, setup his first website, and start learning all about SEO and the differences between quality / low quality and good / bad backlinks. I talk to him via Skype every day and before I go to sleep, I write him a short guides on how to do this and that. He's a blackhat right from the start lol, he moved his primary email account away from Gmail (fuck you Google). :D

    Another good news is that I'm planning to outsource everything that I am currently struggling with, starting in October. I'll have plenty of time to use it on coaching and learning other ways of making money online (PPC included). So, I'll have more time to coach my dad and I won't be stressed out as much because other people are going to do the hard work for me. Who knows, hopefully my dad is gonna teach me something about IM in the near future.

    For real? I gave mine the Longtail Pro and Majestic and he wants to pay half of it. I said no and I'll give him everything I got, including servers and access to PBNs. I got themes and plugins for about $1000, and he wants to pay for that as well. But hell no. :)
     
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    Sound fantastic, I would do the same if I were in your situation. Good luck!
     
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    Keep your business and family completely separated.

    I have had too many bad experiences trying to bring in family, they have to be super ahead of the learning curve to be useful or able to produce their own success with you getting a cut.
     
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    I agree with some of the other members. I made the experience that if you do bring people in they will eventually expect you to do all the work, if there learning curve isn't as it should be or if they are not willing to learn. But your dad seems to be pretty interested in learning about the subject matter, so why not?


    The alternative would be of course that your dad tries to find a job and continues this Internet marketing activities in his spare time. This way he can build up something and see if it really works for him.
     
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    Another option that may benefit the both of you is to teach him the basics and get him to apply for a junior role, working in-house for an already established SEO agency. This could be something as simple as a content creation role and can serve a number of purposes, it would get a regular pay check coming in, he'd be learning the trade and learning the inside tactics of the 'big boys', he could actually end up teaching you a thing or two if you've never been exposed to that sort of environment.

    Learning from someone else also prevents establishing a relationship of reliance. When showing someone the ropes it can be very tempting to intervene and do things yourself, not only does this create a problem for you in terms of your time but it can also negatively disrupt your Dad's learning curve. Getting started with an agency would be win win.
     
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    If your father has bills to pay and people who depend on him, IM should not be his first choice.

    He should be looking for jobs, sure hes going to have free time to play with IM but please don't let him believe he can make this work as it probably won't.
     
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    It's never too late to make a career in IM
     
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    Sounds good, let your father enter the world of IM and experience its blessing.
     
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    Solid advice. IM should be a fallback in most cases. The concepts and methods that the majority of people use are nowhere near as airtight and long-lasting as a B&M job would be.
     
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    I launched brother and few friends into IM and all my knowledge from my 10 years online was there to help them but they just made few bucks and they are too lazy to work, people don't appreciate something that is given to them.
     
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    I tried to get a mate into it once but looking back on it just because it was my dream didn't necessarily mean it was his as well. Good luck to you and your dad.