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BREAKING: Congress introduced legislation to "Fast Track" the Trans-Pacific Partnership

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by The Cheetah, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. The Cheetah

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    Anyone following this? Any thoughts, opinions? Are they over exaggerating this?
     
  2. Capo Dei Capi

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    What censorship is there going to be, the worst that seems to happen is that there is going to be a restriction in Gray market imports which means the costs to get certain items will go up due to logistics. Which opens up for reshipping businesses.

    In the past 5 or so years I have had heard all kinds of panics by the global internet community and things never have gone to what they have claimed to be.
     
  3. JustUs

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    The TPP is primarily a treaty intended to force US copyright law on the world. It is SOPA and PIPA on steroids. It should be forcibly opposed.
     
  4. Capo Dei Capi

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    Its not going to force US copyright law on the world, the treaty is a new law coming out. And its most likely not going to be enforced much, its nothing to worry about.
     
  5. coitza

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    interesting to see all these tries to get everything under control come from us - the all so paranoid country who thinks everyone is out to get them
     
  6. Capo Dei Capi

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    The U.S. didn't start the TPP, it was started in 2002 by Chile,New Zealand and Singapore.
     
  7. Capo Dei Capi

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    One of the arguments against TPP i've heard is that if it passes cosplayers will be arrested. That is total fear mongering bullshit.
     
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    Money is a evil thing, the day man created something that can give you anything you want is the day we fucked up.
     
  9. The Cheetah

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    Have you actually done your research on this? Why would they be pushing it so bad?

    Google: vox/2015/4/17/8438995/why-obamas-new-trade-deal-is-so-controversial
     
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  10. Capo Dei Capi

    Capo Dei Capi BANNED BANNED

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    I've read up on it and it doesn't seem as bad as what some people are claiming. Plus there is going to be a chinese led rival to TPP, so its going to keep things in balance.
     
  11. JustUs

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    Misinformation is a terrible thing. I would suggest that you dig into it a little. You will also find that the **IA's have a terrible lot to say about the issue and that copy/trade rights are the strongest issues. Every now and then, the latest revisions are leaked. Look em up some time.

    If you want a real quick break-down the Electronic Freedom Foundation has some interest information on it at:
    https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/...ing-terrible-drm-and-copyright-term-proposals
     
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  12. Marcel C

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    I'm a noob to blackhatworld, however not a noob to the car game. I have driven Jaguars, BMW's, Audi's and MB, and from all of them I can tell you this:
    All of the newer jaguars have really epic interior/exterior and comfort, performance is pretty standard, but really suck balls when it comes to reliability.
    BMW's have the whole package, reliability + comfort + power + interior+exterior (although I prefer MB more), however BMW's are really nasty on depreciation. A 2014 brand new BMW 750i costs about $105,000. I have seen ones being sold in dealerships with 15000 Kilometers on them for $85,000 with no issues or accident history.
    Audi = electrical failures, but the interior/exterior is awesome and they perform fairly well too. But if you dont wanna deal with broken speedometers and other electrical problems a few times a year I wouldnt risk it.
    Now on to MB (i know its not part of the question but let me convince you to go with MB)
    Interior and extras have always been amazing for MB, they really try to give you your moneys worth... I think they recently added sensors in the car that monitor your blinking and "wake you up" incase you start to fall asleep. Many other extras along with that, super comfortable and amazing performance, interior makes you feel like a total badass buisinessman/baller no matter what you do for a living. Sound system is usually flawless and crisp, and the interior absorbs you into its beauty and comfort. Exterior also makes all the girls wet for you / guys hard for you (if your a girl) and you can always make your friends jelous and whatnot, so go with MERCEDES BENZ! or go with bmw if you are really only considering audi/bmw
     
  13. SimpleSiteSolutions

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    Wrong thread buddy. I'm not sure how you make this mistake but what you're looking for is here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/754645-bmw-audi.html

    Also, formatting. A big block of text like that is hard to read
     
  14. Capo Dei Capi

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    Its still not as bad as what all the anti-TPP people are claiming. Its not going to cause any harm if it does passes.
     
  15. JustUs

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    You and I will have to agree to disagree.
     
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    I usually don't get involved with the conspiracy shite but i did get involved with SOPA and couldn't turn a blind eye to this.

    This bill was passed by congress to be fast tracked and signed ASAP on Thursday. Obama doesn't plan to hesitate signing it.

    So I looked to see if anything was posted on the forum about this considering it could potentially affect the IM world. I did a little digging around, and what I've come to uncover is quite startling:

    The doc that was released in wikileaks does seem to apply the same restrictions on Intellectual Property as PIPA and SOPA in the section listed.

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    https://wikileaks.org/tpp/
    I wouldn't be so concerned if it wasn't fast tracked and flying through congress with a large number of votes in its favor. And the fact that it seems "kept under the radar" is raising another flag. Then how publicized gay marriage being legalized was. It's almost like it was intentional. Why would congress choose to fast track it through on Thursday as all of the attention was diverted else where?

    Here's the CNN Politics article on it being passed:

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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/politics/trade-bill-barack-obama-taa/
    Not saying the wikileaks doc is 100% legit, I'm just saying it's somethin' to look into considering this is most likely going to be passed.

    Anyone have anything to say?
     
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