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bought only 150k views + comments + likes - and take a look at the results

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Scipio00, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    I need to rank some youtube vids so i made a quick research. Common opinion seems to be that the Youtube algorithm is pretty easy to rank. Some people even wrote that you don´t have to care about organizing things naturally.

    So i made the test:


    • Bought 150k views, got 180k
    • bought to fiver gigs of likes (have 420 good ratings, 12 bad ratings)
    • bought 40 comments, wrote them by myself with some keyword use but looking natural
    • have 22 subscribers
    • commented manually with my account to these comments
    • keywords in the beginning of title, description, tags,... (i think here I didn´t make big mistakes) and of course HD video

    Problems:
    • first fiverr gig came before the views, so i had lots of ratings but no views
    • comments came last
    • video is only 2 min and i use the word "photoshop" only one time in it. It´s a marketing video, no text for reading.
    • it was the first vid i uploaded under this account

    Main Keyword is Photoshop related with 13k exact searches a month.

    Competition:
    • have between 20 and 69k views, probably natural views, less comments, less likes.
    • vids come from channels that have lots of subscribers

    Results:
    • #10 for keyword

    I got my views ~30 hours ago. I bought the cheapest views i could get.

    So, what can i do better? Do i need more time to rank higher? I didn´t expect to rank directly on #1 (seemed to easy), but not sure what is missing. Or do i only rank on #10 because my strategy was too unnatural and it isn´t that easy to game youtube?


    Thoughts + Help lease!
     
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  2. xFBxx

    xFBxx BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks for details, i am defiantly going to try this out now!
     
  3. ferma231

    ferma231 Elite Member

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    Huge rank factor is video view lenght. Basicly if people watch video from start till end you get better ranks
     
  4. jem001

    jem001 Junior Member

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    Can u give us the links for the fiverr gigs that you've used?
     
  5. skittles

    skittles BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    You should build some backlinks too :) and give it some time.
     
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  6. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    So there is still some kind of difference between good views and bad views? Are there services out that sell views with high video view lenght?
    I still don´t get why Youtube is gameable, is it so tough to see average viewtime and just ignore the vids that get clicked away after 5 seconds? Or ignoring the vids that get all its views within 12 hours and before/after nothing?

    I´ve done it, completly forgot. I sent spamlinks (Scrapebox+UD Blast).

    http://fiverr.com/tapangoldy/get-you-fast-6500-youtube-views-in-24-hour-special-deal-ever--2
    http://fiverr.com/youtube_likes_/gi...-youtube-likes-in-5-days-without-admin-access
    http://fiverr.com/dudeknows/give-you-300-youtube-likes
    and one gig for non-english comments (vid wasn´t in english)

    I just ordered the first gigs that seem fine to me and looked about the average views:likes:comments ratio of the other vids.


    btw.: good service @skittles, i bought from You. Thanks for overdelivering.
     
  7. santhu

    santhu Power Member

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    Tried favorites???
     
  8. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    illfounded21 Senior Member

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    It is not an instant thing.

    Unless you send a shit load of views towards a vid as soon as it is uploaded, ranking a vid can take a fair amount of time.
     
  10. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    But do i have to send views/comments/likes/favorites on a regular basis or just after uploading?
     
  11. therage

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    You understand that YouTube is similar to Google in SERPS, ranking, tactics, and strategies right? Each channel is the "site" and each video is the "page". What off YouTube marketing are you doing besides this? What was your tactical audience and goal for your video? Do you know why people would go to your link and not someone else? If you can answer these questions, incorporate it into your strategy for YouTube.
     
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    Great case study
     
  13. facebookdude

    facebookdude Elite Member

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    I did a case study also and I found that if 90% of your views also correspond in the 'Likes' section you will rank for anything. I had 20k views and around 19k likes. Ranked for a very competitive keyword.
     
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  14. mangobajito

    mangobajito Power Member

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    MY video is in #1 now for a keyword
    But der is no searches for my keyword in Youtube .So i am not getting any clicks for my links .I have selected that keyword to rank the video in G .
    My video is in 3rd page of G in 3 weeks
    I have not bought any views .I just used mobile views exploit upto 2000 views and then view exchanges for views,likes and enhanceviews for comments .
    I posted it in digg and used youlikehits for linkedln shares ,tweets etc

    The keyword has upto 2000 exact US local search


     
  15. arsaltheman

    arsaltheman Power Member

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    yeah! build some quality backlinks too...your video will Rank more higher easily!
     
  16. chummm

    chummm Registered Member

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    Mobile views? They don't rank as well as real views. Get subscribers and favourites on that video ASAP. Do normal SEO for the video as you would with a website. Build quality backlinks to it. Also embed it on several websites and forums (though, this can be tricky as people will soon see it's spam). Try a website like youlikehits to get subs and you could get people to tweet about your video (though, most get deleted or go unnoticed).
     
  17. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    Okay, so you guys connect always Google SEO with Youtube SEO...

    What I don´t get:
    1. Your vid rank higher on Google if it has more social signs. Does it rank on youtube higher if it has Backlinks, too?
    2. Youtube Vids have already high authority. Does that mean I can use everytime my main Keyword as Anchortext?
    3. Does Youtube really give a shit about the timing when views, comments, likes,... appear?
    4. Is there any quality difference when you buy views/likes/favorites/comments?
    5. If linkjuice is from any importance, are internal links too, right? Is there any point in commenting on vids with high PR for getting the backlink to your channel page?
    6. If i want to appear on the youtube frontpage do i need views from the targetted country (in my case Germany)?


    What I´ve done:

    Today I rank on #8 for the KW. But still no traffi

    Thanks for Your help!
     
  18. Junkfood00

    Junkfood00 Elite Member

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    Well, at least you're moving forward, this is a great case study for us. Do one thing at a time and see what works and what not, then of course report back. :)
     
  19. thetvnun

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    in your channel you will find a statistic called "audience retention", it will tell you when your views bounced. if they bounce early it will affect your position. you can stick an annotation at the beginning of your video that says "something" to make them stay longer, like, "free xyz at end of video" - or whatever. When you buy views you have to ask about "audience retention" percentage - SPK's was full length, U2B views is very low (I think).
     
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  20. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    relative:
    http://screencast.com/t/MD4iFFbva8

    absolute:
    http://screencast.com/t/TdulB18Hsied

    Are that good views or bad views? They were the cheapest i found.