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Bought Domain, turns out it has an age of 3 years?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SammyBlackstar, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. SammyBlackstar

    SammyBlackstar Registered Member

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    I bought a domain and the who is and toolbars say that it's 3 years old.

    Can I build links to it more "aggressively" or does velocity still matter?
     
  2. datkewlguy

    datkewlguy Newbie

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    I want to know this as well. Also, how many back links should I be hitting my brand new sites with? I've just been waiting until they get indexed and harvesting about 100 urls a day. Is that going to hurt me or is that too little?
     
  3. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    3 year old site can handle some pretty aggressive backlinking if there are already backlinks in place. Nice deal.. you didn't know it was an aged domain?

    I bought one that is almost 4 years old and have been adding 250 - 300 links a day to it with no issues.

    New sites, I generally build 15 - 20 a day for the first month and double that every month for about 6 months and then go crazy with it.
     
  4. Kickflip

    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    I buy new domains, register them, throw up wordpress with 1 article. Then I build 1,000 links/day for the first week.

    As long as they are not all junky links with no anchor text, I have never seen any issues first hand. Do people actually have PROOF that a new domain can't take aggressive link building? Because I have honestly never seen any problems. Maybe the issue is HOW you are building links that matters.

    New sites go viral all the time, sometimes getting 25,000 links overnight, and they jump to the top of google as an authority on their main topic. All it takes is one small website to be the first to report some controversial news, and tons of sites will link to it.
     
  5. businessbira

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    I've recently bought one as you buy any other new domain and found out that it had been registered for the first time in May 2001. Crazy shit.

    Aged domains are a piece of cake when you build links to them, they rank so much faster.

    Be aggressive, there is no need to be gentle and wait. Never.

    I agree that being aggressive doesn't harm a new site, it just takes more time for the site to rank high, if the domain is fresh.
     
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  6. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    Kickflip has a point there. Some people get penalized, others don't. I guess it's just a matter of what you do. There is no right or wrong answer. If Google becomes suspicious, they'll just penalize you and that's it. :)

    Just because a domain was first registered in 2001, it doesn't make it an aged one...
     
  7. SEORasta

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    Of course...build it as you would a new domain. I have domains from 1996 still and you should never stop :)
     
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    The main reason why most of the new domains are getting into sandbox is for the simple reason that everyone is firstly doing blog commenting on auto-approve blogs which is a BIG NO for a new blog

    My suggestion? In a new blog start with article submissions on main article directories, then create some web2.0 blogs and then use social bookmarking services

    After you have reached your first 100-200 backlinks from the above mentioned methods its time to start blog commenting :)
     
  9. Realign02

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    "Aged" domains don't offer as much value as you would think within the SEO world.

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    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/age-of-site-and-old-links-whiteboard-friday
    That link is from SEOmoz, they talk about this more in depth.

    From my own personal testing, I don't notice much difference either. The good news is you can still sell aged domains for good $ :)
     
  10. Realign02

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    EDIT: Sorry, double post.
     
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  11. derpywizard

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    Hmmm... So a domain is not aged if it doesn't have any backlinks or PR?

    I found some domains in GoDaddy TDNAM that are over 4 years old but with no backlinks, PR, and even history (though if you do site:http://www.site.com they do appear there, just with a GoDaddy domainbuynow cached page) .

    I was thinking of buying an old domain so I could blast it to heck in one month and get it to rank for some more competitive terms in the e-commerce world.

    So now I have to find domains that are registered a long time ago, and find them with backlinks to them?

    That's going to be hard and expensive. In that case I might as well just buy a new domain name that actually has the keywords I'll need to target.

    If anybody can clarify this, I'd appreciate it.
     
  12. eria86

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    The best domains are the ones with no history gaps, they can get PR in couple of days after the registration.

    Someone said before that with new domain he starts with 15-20 links a day, in my oppinion, thats a waste of time, after the first month you get only 600 backlinks tops. IMHO You could easily get 6k backlinks after first month without getting sandboxed. Even if You get one You can always try 301 redirect:)

    If you want to find some decent domains You can try checking eXdomain, it's a pretty decent tool.
     
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  13. dbyrn

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    If there were no gaps in whois register history - yes you have an aged domain.
    I've just registered a NEW domain and found out that it has been registered some time ago and it comes with a bonus. A free google ban. Lucky me! :faint:
     
  14. derpywizard

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    You mean, from the wayback machine? Or do you mean when it was registered?
     
  15. SammyBlackstar

    SammyBlackstar Registered Member

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    Awesome. I've been submitting articles to Unique Article Wizard building at 50 submissions a day.

    I have scrapebox but I will wait to blast.

    What is your favourite service/app? Pimping allowed!
     
  16. mccullum

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    a domain is aged regardless of the backlinks it has got.but remember .. if it has had some links for a few years,it has more strength.And if it has had a history for quite some time,it has more strength as well.
     
  17. dbyrn

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    I mean whois registry.
    E.g.:
    There is a difference in domain's age between:

    Domain1
    Registered 2000.01.01 - 2003.01.01
    unregistered
    Registered 2011.01.01 - till now

    Domain 2
    Registered 2000.01.01 0 - till now

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