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Bought A Domain - Indexed But Not ranking even after a 301!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Openside, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. Openside

    Openside Power Member

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    Hi All,

    I have a over month old domain name. It is indexed in Google but not ranking in the top 500 even after I 301'd a 2 year old PR1 Domain that was ranking on page 1 to it.

    I then checked the history of the new domain I bought and realised that it had been owned before but looked like it was dropped.

    Does this mean the domain is bad?

    Should I drop it and start with a new domain?

    Thanks all!
     
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  4. Openside

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    I have started to build backlinks to it.

    Usually when I make a new site even with just onsite SEO it is in the top 100 never mind 500 so that is why I am worried.

    It is not a churn and burn site either.

    I am half thinking of moving the site to a new domain before going any further.
     
  5. Openside

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    Also I read the google waiting period thread but this is different as it is not even ranked in the top 500 after 5 weeks and some link building and a genuine 301.
     
  6. StraussCan

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    301's the reason why it's not ranking.
     
  7. Openside

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    Hey,

    Can you elaborate on this please?
     
  8. howard_hughes

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    Nothing can be farther from the truth.

    But most people here forget that only 301s will not rank a site. You will still need authority links along with 301s.


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    "[/FONT]301 to a brand new domain may do more harm than good" Makes No Sense
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    301s are Originally meant to be for new sites remember? They're meant for redirecting an old site when it moves to a new address.[/FONT]

    But if you use a spammmy 301 with chinese backlinks then yea, it'll do only harm and no good.
     
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  9. lejolasho

    lejolasho Regular Member

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    Hi,
    Can you please tell me, did you solve this problem? I am in the exactly same situation and your case is very interesting for me.

    I still have done zero effort in backlinking yet, because my site is 2 weeks old. In the begining some kw's I am aiming were in 200-300th place, but after using smallseotools free backlinks tool it has absolutely disappeared from google (I think, that that tool did not hurt my rankings, because if it did, a negative seo would have been a way too easy. :D)

    Thanks.
     
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  10. Laubster

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    Yeah, thanks for the worthless post. 301's are not the Be All End All of SEO, but they still work. They just need to be combined with other strategies. Also depends on the quality of the domain being 301'd. But yeah it's prob. a mix of the waiting period or you not sending enough links to the site for it to rank.
     
  11. SEO Power

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    Dropped domains are not ideal to build new sites on because they may have been penalised by Google in the past and such domains won't rank no matter what you do. Also, 301s don't work like they used to. The last aged domain I bought is a PR 2 domain, 2 years old, with a completely natural link profile and I knew it was in Google's good books because it was ranking on page 1 for it's target keyword - a low competition keyword.

    I 301ed it to a new site in an unrelated niche and nothing happened. Not a single downward or upward movement. Maybe the reason why it didn't work is the absence of niche relevance, but then I've done the same thing in the past and it worked (pushed my site from page 2 to #4 page 1). So my conclusion is that Google has fixed the 301 redirect loophole.
     
  12. Martin1971

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    Completely b*llsh*t if the 301ing site is high pr it shoul have good effect
     
  13. Openside

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    Never figured this out to be honest. Still not showing up.
     
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    The Domain isn't consider as dropped domain, when you registered it. So stop worrying about it & check with the domain you redirected.