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botted for yr -> just quit. how long till organic juice returns?

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by dachshunds, May 30, 2017.

  1. dachshunds

    dachshunds Newbie

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    hi - I used FL 24/7 L/C,F/UF and grew my IG account to 50K in roughly a years time. Like everyone else I saw engagement decrease at the end of Feb 2017. Engagement dropped in half. Organic new followers severely throttled. It's not a shadowban (I checked). I stopped botting about a week ago and want to get BHW takes on how long it will be before Instagram lifts whatever flag/ban/throttle they have on the account. From what I've seen on here some people say disable the account for two weeks. Others say do nothing. And still others say keep posting pics and engage through the app, but don't bot.

    I've accepted that botting is just not a good long term bet given the recent focus MP, IGRS, etc. and I'd decided to grow the account organically using engagement groups to boost reach. So the question is - how long will it take before IG lifts whatever engagement suppression flag they have on my account? 2 weeks? a month? longer still? I'm less interested in hearing from people who have never done this before. If you have successfully brought your account back to organic life so to speak please leave the community a note with what you did and how long it took. Cheers!
     
  2. colorme

    colorme Senior Member

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    It depends. Also, if you're into Telegram engagement groups. Stop! Nothing happening with Telegram other than getting likes/comments from the people in the group. You won't get new anything by doing Telegram EG. I wrote about this in another post. Telegram EGs hinder your Instagram growth.
     
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  3. dachshunds

    dachshunds Newbie

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    I would disagree about Telegram IG groups. Some of the largest drops are 1000 additional likes, which can make the difference with hashtag top 9. My overall engagement rate is much higher and I assume plays into the algo. Additionally, you can drop a different account than the one providing likes to avoid a pure L4L.

    I forgot to add that I will reply back to OP in a month's time with what happened to my engagement
     
  4. colorme

    colorme Senior Member

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    I've already noted all of this on my warning about Telegram engagement groups. I was in all the largest groups, invite only 100K+, etc. I was doing 1.8K rounds daily, dropping other accounts that never did any rounds, etc.
    If you think that getting to the top of the hashtags does any good from Telegram engagement groups, you're in for a real surprise. You're not getting any more new organic followers, I can guarantee you that. You're getting bots, and only bots.
    Like I've written before, don't believe me, in time, you'll realize the same thing that I wrote about in my detailed post about Telegram engagement groups.
    By the way, have you checked how many likes you give and how many likes you receive? Yeah, you're only getting about 60%-70% back. It will get worse over time, and the longer you are in Telegram liking groups, the more your organic engagement will drop.
     
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  5. mladz

    mladz Power Member

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    organic growth... lol cunt
     
  6. dachshunds

    dachshunds Newbie

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    I wasn't getting organic followers before Telegram so net-net nothing has changed except with Telegram groups my engagement rate is higher and my pictures have additional likes on them. Debating the pros + cons of Telegram groups is a worthy topic but, it's not what I'm asking. Saying "it depends" isn't really saying much. If you have experience with getting organic growth and engagement to return to your account please let us know what you did and how long it took. That's what I'm asking.
     
  7. colorme

    colorme Senior Member

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    When we write "depends" on BHW, we're not referring to adult pampers. It really depends on your niche, your postings, the quality, how much following/unfollowing and engagement you do. No two, or three or 100 accounts will behave the same. The reason being is Instagram's algorithm.

    As to what I did? I quit doing Telegram rounds. I wrote about all of this, but here it is for you, once more. Read up on what others write here on BHW. It's not all bull, or "I went from 0 to 100K in 3 months" daydreams. Most of us write stuff about our experiences and what has worked for us, so that others don't reinvent the wheel. That being said, Instagram changes often, so what worked 3 months ago, may no longer be up to date.

    Most of my accounts went back to normal in about 2-4 weeks and started gaining organic followers and organic likes. These are non spam accounts that I handle. HQ posts, each with their own company or personal URL, not crappy bit.ly, or shit like that. So, again, what happens to your accounts is mostly up to Instagram.
     
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    I don't see the thread that you started about not using TG groups. The most recent thread that I found was your "Beware of Telegram Groups" on March 21st, where you warned people about not receiving the expected number of likes from TG groups, but that you still participated in them and that they were not all bad. Are you referring to another thread?
     
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    My bad @colorme. Now I noticed that you changed your opinion later on the above thread.
     
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    Finished reading your entire TG thread @colorme. Good advice. Thanks!
     
  11. colorme

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    You're quite welcome. Most of us here try to help each other.
     
  12. mladz

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    telegram groups are on fire. 145k in 75 days and 25k in 12 days.. you need to be in the bots minimum sized accounts 20k 50k and 100k.

    if you want to rely on organic growth there is no such thing. please wear a face mask because all the people in the telegram will pass you while pissing on your face.
     
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    This! Ever since I started in engagement group I get an additional 1k like on my page and I reach top post in my hashtags. The EG is a great tool to help you go viral and boost your organic following but shouldn't be your only form of engagement. As long as you engage with your real followers I doubt you'll have a problem.
     
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    On one of my accounts I stopped botting & decreased my followings below 100 (only following accounts I engage with & within my niche). I am apart of several Instagram DM engagement group with people of similar size, larger & smaller. Once I stopped follow/unfollow and stuck with IG DM EG my engagement went way up like with in days.

    I have had several videos go viral over the past few weeks 100k-350k views which have gained me 8k+ followers in the span of 2 weeks.

    It comes down to posting relevant high quality posts to bring back natural engagement & organic reach.
     
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  15. willteasle

    willteasle Junior Member

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    Has your engagement gone back up yet?
    I've stopped botting for a month but if anything the engagement is just getting worse. 150 likes with 33k followers. :/