I'm posting this because I hope it can be useful to someone. I just made a post regarding a forum member that passed on, and I realise I was wrong for doing that, and decided to spend the next 15 minutes giving something back. I'm mature in age. Been around the marketing block a few times. I've been through some shit and managed to make a fortune in the process. Then I blew it. I want to share this story in the hope that it may help someone. I started in Internet marketing at about 24. I had worked as a web developer for many years, worked in software development, and was heavily into phreaking and hacking in the early days. After a breakup with an ex at 24 I started to learn about making money online. I was at University at the time, just moved in to start my first year on a Software Engineering degree. I was speaking to some folks I'd known for years on IRC and they taught me the basics of making money from Adsense. I also read Joel Comms Adsense book cover to cover twice during the train ride to University. I set up a quotes website (domain was sayin.gs ... for "sayings". Bit crappy looking back, but it worked). I took the entire database from wiki. I was making about $50 a day from adsense from regurgitating these famous quotes and saying. No SEO at all, but it was obviously being ranked. I then learnt about classifieds sites, and how to do ewhoring. I was a member on Cash University. For anyone that remembers I would be in the top leaderboards for earnings almost consistantly. That's where I met Vito Glazers. Some of you will know him. I'd write software for him, he'd tell me some shady ways to iframe their landing pages and increase conversions. We stayed in contact for a long time and I was pushing a lot of traffic to Tank, but he moved on into acting and I lost touch. I thought I was rich back then. I made $18k some days, which was my best days for eWhoring. I got fast payouts. Except, one Christmas they released the payment on Christmas Eve. I'd spent a bomb on presents and holidays and was relying on my next payout. I thought it wouldn't arrive on time, but true to their word they paid out. This was around the time they were halting payments and not paying publishers. Thankfully Vito got me paid up. I started living the good life still pushing CU because I was promised to be paid (and I was). But Gumtree (the site I was using) killed their dating section. I was the reason for them closing it (and a few others). We killed it! I write software that did autoposting. I used TheBat to do auto responders and a script that write the persons email address on the image of the girl to make it look real to increase conversions. I was showing off at uni. I got too big for my boots and quit to live in a quite village. Around that time was when I registered on here. I also made software that displayed 50 captcha codes and hired a guy to sit there completing them. This allowed me to autopost on Craigslist (not sure if deathbycaptcha was a thing back then). I was able to generate good money but no where near what I did on Gumtree. But my money started to fade. Everything was saturated. I was struggling to find an income online that could support my new lifestyle. At one point I had to claim Government benefits for a couple of months and registered myself as homeless with the local council. I pissed money up the wall like you would never believe. I remember buying me and my friend a bottle of champagne each that cost 700GBP per bottle just to show off in a club. Also around the time I had a falling out with HaRRo. We sorted it out in the end, but that fucker kept calling my phone from a premium rate number. I called it back and got billed a fortune and had to go through hassle to get it removed from my bill. I got to know Jeff from that incident. Jeff if you're reading, contact me, I've missed chatting with you Desperate for money I had an idea ... to create a Facebook page that I knew people would share. This was back when Facebook was full of exploits and I abused the living hell out of them (I invented a few of the exploits that were ripped and resold on CPALead marketplace). The pages I made were clickbait. User would click the page, be redirected to the page's landing page and automatically invite all their friends. After that they had to complete a survey to see the image. It made an absolute killing. I pulled in 80k in one day along with a friend (thanks ZS if you read this). In total we smashed it on CPALead. We was amongst the likes of Alienwoo (if anyone remembers him). Some shit kicked off and Facebook tried to make us snitch in return for cash. I'm legally not allowed to discuss what happened there so I'll stop. I will say though, I tried to bribe Joe Cutler into getting Facebook to give me a job. They laughed at me. I blew the cash. I grew up poor, never had cash. My family were drug addicts. So I wasted it (I never touched drugs at all apart from weed). I lived in apartments amongst the rich, spending obscene amounts of money on expensive music production hardware. At one point I had nearly 100k worth of music gear and expensive retro keyboards. I was blowing cash on holidays, clothes, alcohol, furniture, gadgets etc. Then the methods died, and so did the cash. I hit depression and rock bottom. Started drinking heavily. I was selling what I owned to live, to try and live that high life one last time in the hope that I'd find a new way to make that money again. It didn't happen. I went back to article marketing and made enough to live on. Depression and alcohol took their toll. I tried to commit suicide multiple times. I was reckless and I got involved in a hacking group, done some dumb shit and got put in prison for a year. I got grassed up and done time. After prison I came out and jumped straight on spamming Facebook groups. I made a good chunk of money but then got diagnosed with Testicle Cancer. That was rough as fuck! After I kicked Cancers ass I went back to marketing and back to spamming Facebook groups. I made another small fortune and made sure my sons Christmas was the best ever. I also reported some exploits to Facebook because they bordered on the lines of illegal if I were to use them. Facebook paid me for reporting and I'm still on their hackers hall of fame. Anyway, the aftershock of Cancer started to cause serious depression. I stopped working. I stopped programming. I spent days on end in bed, just lying with the laptop reading, and learning but never really doing anything. I was smoking an ounce of weed a week to forget about life. I fell deeper into financial ruin. I had sold everything I owned to pay for an expensive weed habit. We're now around a year on from financial ruin and here I am stuck in Government housing. I'm moving out in a month because I found some new clients who are paying well and this time I've decided to be very careful with money. I basically had to start from square one and use all my knowledge to build a consistent income instead of abusing churn and burn methods and burning the cash. I've a got a few websites running, and some methods running on auto pilot, but they've only just started to become fruitful. I've spent too long at the computer over the years that I fear one day I'll die too young. I exercise, I do pull ups, press ups, skipping and use kettlebells but my life is pretty much housebound due to anxiety. The moral is ... if you're like me and manage to stumble upon huge sums of cash, be careful with it. Blackhat marketing isn't consistent. The income comes and goes. It's part of the job. Invest the cash into something consistent and live happily ever after. That money seems unreachable these days. It was so easy to rape huge sums of cash. These days things have changed and either I'm out of the loop, or those sorts of methods no longer exist. Never take life for granted. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed. Yesterday my Dad got diagnosed with terminal Cancer (we're currently making up a batch of RSO for him ... clutching straws) and shit is in the air at the moment. Today has been spent in a total haze reminiscing on the past.