Ok, you seem to have the answer for everything.
I like to practice debating, no other reasons why I would join discussions here. It's interesting as well when the opponent is not in a full potato mode.
I see you mentioned that it's mostly blue-collar workers who claim this is discrimination, so I'm guessing you think we're all stupid for avoiding the vaccine.
As this is IM forum, then obviously this is not the case about blue-collar, but yes, I wanted to point to a possible intelligence issue from my observations and it's a deep subjective opinion, I do not have data or anything. And I do not take you for being stupid, not at all. Sometimes when I'm tired, my English fails me, and some things I say sound rude or arrogant, but that is not a way I think, just my limitations to express myself, but sometimes that happens in my native language as well. I meant no disrespect for you or others. I will try to be more careful with my wording.
there are so many things wrong with this
Yes, you are absolutely right about that there are many things wrong. We have only two possible extremes to battle the pandemic - to take vaccines or not take them at all. For crowd immunity, we need at least 70% of the population to be vaccinated. So we have two evils to deal with, and the common sense, in this case, is to choose the path with less possible damage with current knowledge.
You have to sign your rights to sue before you take this vaccine
Sorry, what did you meant with this?
If short-term effects alter your heart and lungs, then what is happening long-term to your cells?
Again, you have to choose a less evil scenario. If you can live your life low, avoid human contact, and avoid getting covid, then obviously it's only reason not to take vaccine, then you will not need that certificate and in those rare occasions when you do - you can just take tests and be free to do what you need. But if you live the risk of getting covid and facing long term problems from it, just by comparing percentage - it's obvious that the last risk would be to take the vaccination. We do not know long term risks from covid as well.
Even though there are numerous reports of vaccinated people still being hospitalized and dying.
It's all in numbers, if my risk of getting hospitalized with plastic tubes in my throat showed down decreases by 60%, I'm happy to take the vaccine.
For all you know, you could've drunk OJ/Coke, and gotten a positive test.
I do not see how this goes against that covid complications are dangerous af and should be avoided.
See, I have a gut feeling that this will not end well in 5-10 years for people.So, I'll just quarantine from people who think they're the smartest in the room and wait things out until everything settles down.
If you have such a chance, that's the most perfect scenario, because in theory, you just need to wait when 70% of the population will be vaccinated and then it will be just the seasonal flu. I still hear that some people vaccinate against flu, never done that and I never had it.
PS: I guess you can consider the family with 2 STEM degrees super smart too right? They gave their daughter the vaccine, and now she's paralyzed for the rest of her life. With simple common sense and looking at the data, they didn't consider that their daughter had a super low chance of being affected by COVID.
Well, there are hundreds of thousands of people getting vaccinated every day. When these wheelchair people will start to pop out like spring flowers, I will reconsider this as a fact that should be addressed with caution. Probably should do a lot before that, but you got my idea, right? 1 case in 1000 million, that is 0.000000001% chance to face this?
