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Bookmarking: Ultimate Demon vs. Sick vs. SENukeX

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by blackieman, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    Hi, I am trying to compare the three platforms for bookmarking. I don't yet have access to UD.

    I think SEnukeX support higher PR custom bookmarking sites, whereas Sick supports pligg, phpdug, .. more of the lower end sites, nothing custom.

    What does UD support? Also from videos it appears that with UD you can feed a long list of entries using csv or excel, which provides a way to use some external script to create a long list of entries and just feed it to UD?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Mr.Profit

    Mr.Profit Regular Member

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    SenukeX has the biggest bookmarking platforms and the ones with HIGH PR. These are really good for tier 1 bookmarking or even for your money site, because they can give you a good value. The downside is it's fixed, you can't import what you want and you rely on SEnuke's team to add more bookmarking sites. The success rate may be worse than the other too, because the bigger the site, the more changes it makes to their design and system.

    Ultimate DEMON on the other hand is capable of importing a lot of bookmarking sites, thus having more backlinks created. I've gathered bookmarking sites here on BHW, cleaned the duplicates, imported, created account and after all of that I'm able to get around 1200/1500 bookmakrs after reposting to the account.

    I've never used Sick, but from friends and what I've seen here and there, you can define your own templates, which in the end may be even better than UD, but it will require a lot more work and time.


    So for pure bookmarking -Ultimate Demon/Bookmarking Demon 6 (which is 1:1 copy of UD's bookmarking module) or Sick

    For complex schemes - SenukeX and UD and Sick :)

    Regards,
    Mr.Profit
     
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  3. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    Thank you Mr.Profit. Does UD support any custom high end bookmarking sites (like SENukeX does) or is it only importing lower-tier pligg, phpdug,... bookmarking sites. I think the fact that you can import your jobs (and not only the site list) is swaying me to UD. Is that true, can you put together a csv with all the jobs and import them?

    Sick does have custom templates that you can buy. But I think it will not be the powerhouse bookmarker for me.
     
  4. Danny1111

    Danny1111 Elite Member

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    SeNuke only does the top sites - and they change all the time

    UD/BD - you can add a bunch of sites you scrape - and for me it just works easily

    Sick - you need custom templates to really see anything from it - so maybe the best if
    you have the time and energy to learn it/use it/ customize it.

    I got BD and that's what I would recommend for 90% of people looking to bookmark tonnes
    of sites. (i've used the others extensively before but moved to BD)
     
  5. Mr.Profit

    Mr.Profit Regular Member

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    I can't understand what you mean by this CSV importing, because you've to create Project and inside that project you've to create tasks for submission (or only account registration if you prefer).

    I don't have knowledge about a way to import that information, and btw this is the slowest part of the whole process, setting up the tasks...

    Here's a list of the highest PR websites in UD's default list:
    Code:
    [TABLE="width: 128"]
      [TR]
       [TD="width: 64"]http://digg.com[/TD]
       [TD="width: 64, align: right"]8[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://stumbleupon.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://delicious.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://reddit.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://blinklist.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://bibsonomy.org[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://diigo.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://folkd.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://oneview.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://dev.scoopit.co.nz[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://jumptags.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://scoopit.co.nz[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://bizsugar.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://mol.mn[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://marketprice.com.vn[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://colivia.de[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://cndig.org[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://www.bloggingcanadians.ca[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://www.chungkhoan84.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
      [/TR]
      [TR]
       [TD]http://linkarena.com[/TD]
       [TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
      [/TR]
     [/TABLE]
    
    You can import tons more if you want though.

    Regards,
    Mr.Profit

     
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  6. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    The coding for UD and BMD is - or is about to be unified apparently.

    I have more BM sites with PR3 or higher than I can count.
    Thing is they aren't all the same.

    Worth remembering that Pligg is almost a WEB2 site, you can put a TON of stuff in a Pligg bookmark - a whole article with embedded links. You can even embed photos and video to some pligg submissions with HTML code.

    Code:
    [URL]http://pligg.com/gallery/[/URL]
    Here's some examples

    No-one much does - but you can.

    All bookmarks are not born equal.

    Scritty
     
  8. cloakndagger

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    I love UD,check out http//www.demondemon.com for a stack of useful info on it.

    Btw the way you can copy and paste sites into UD to add them into the site detector it doesn't have to be done with a csv,likewise exporting links,simply copy live links to clipboard(there is a button for this) and paste into notepad..easy.
     
  9. myownhero

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    Supposedly SeNuke 3.x.x is supposed to allow custom bookmarking lists, so that may impact your decision.
     
  10. drywallrob

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    I am extremely biased towards UD. IMO it is the best one time purchase type of link building software in its class. BUT, it does have a fee for future updates. It is $150 for 2 years. So, in 2 years, you will have to pay $150 for the next update. But that is nothing compared to SEnuke.

    You can add any type of site (that it supports) to it. I am growing my WEB 2.0 list as well as other lists.

    But, if you want to save a few bucks, get sick submitter. The only problem with that, is that you have to "train" it to submit to other platforms. Or, you can buy packets for it. So you can post to article sites, web 2.0's, etc.

    SEnuke is expensive, when you compare it to UD. Especially when you take into consideration that you cannot add sites to it yourself.

    My advice is to get UD, as you have up to 30 days to return it. If you do not like it, then you can turn it back in (keep all the links you just made ). I started out with SS, and it worked well. Then I went to SEnuke. Now I prefer UD. They are planning on a linkwheel update soon. It should be interesting.
     
  11. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    Thanks guys for the feeback.

    I believe a key to good bookmarking is to grow your profile on a bookmarking site into an authority, and that requires care and feeding it. Not a couple of bookmarks and bye bye. So Scritty's idea to enhance the bookmarking is good (I did not know about pligg enhancements).

    Scritty: Is it true that you can define your bookmark jobs sequencially in an Excel and then have them imported. I think that is what your video says, but I am not sure. If that is true, that really appeals to someone who can write scripts (like me), and can program a script to create a massive csv list. A lot easier/better than punching stuff in.
     
  12. Mr.Profit

    Mr.Profit Regular Member

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    Hey blackieman,

    In Scitty's video, he's showing how you can import a list of Type, URLs, Spun Titles + Descriptions + Tags and Categories BUT they've been imported in ONE task which then will be scheduled. The whole point here being you can prespin your titles descriptions and tags for each URL, and not doing it into UD itself.

    However you will have to create separate tasks to import to! There's no work around this, as far as I know.

    EDIT: If you are refering to the "Date Added" field, it's automatically generated from UD, so you know when you've added/imported the URLs for bookmarking/wikis/article dirs/web2.0 ...


    The whole process in a nutshell is the following:
    Create PROJECT -> ADD TASKS to this PROJECT (doesn't matter if it will be bookmarking, wikis, articles, you have to add it) -> Import list of sites you want to be submitted.

    Regards,
    Mr.Profit
     
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  13. Mayas

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    My choice:
    1- SeNuke
    2- Bookmarking Demon
    Sick submitter is not as much effective as bookmarking demon is and price of this software is within the budget more over its life time membership :))
     
  14. atif4ever

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    m selling ma BMD license though its very usefull....but dont need it anymore
     
  15. Nightstalker

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    I use UD, and it is the powerful one in bookmarking, also i owns bmd but not using it anymore because ud can do all the thing for me.
     
  16. spoon22

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    UD is the best by far, but with new google updates it could be useless now....
     
  17. Mr.Profit

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    Why would you say that? Care to elaborate your theory a bit more?

    It really depends on you how you're going to build your links, so it's up to you to be on the safe side. If you meant something else, please elaborate.

    Regards,
    Mr.Profit
     
  18. clyde

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    Why don't you keep your money and wait for my tool instead? ;)
     
  19. Scritty

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    Sorta true - but you only pay the $147 IF there is a major update, if two years have passed and if you want to . UD will carry on working without the major update if you don't want it (albeit without the benefits of the update).

    So there are 3 criteria that need to be met before you pay more;


    • There is a major update (i.e the digit before the decimal point changes - you DONT PAY for minor updates even after two years) AND...
    • It's been AT LEAST two years has past since you bought it (Since YOU BOUGHT IT not since the product was launched) AND...
    • You want to update. It carries on working if you don't

    As they have no way of knowing when you are going to buy it they can't "time an update" conveniently 2 years and a day after you buy it.
    It seems a really fair system to me. You then "start again" with at least two years more and the same major update rule

    So if a major update comes and you haven't had UD for two years...you get it free
    If two years passes and there is no major update just minor ones..you get them free
    If two years passes and a major update comes - you don't need to upgrade if you don't want to - UD will carry on working just fine (albeit without the power of the update).

    Remember the original Nuke barely lasted 2 and a half years (and for the last nine months of that it was totally crap). 2 years is a LONG time for any IM software, but Edwinsoft have a track record of keeping stuff updated and adding features all the time. BMD is 6 years old, a one off payment item, and was last updated about 10 days ago.

    Find any other great SEO software that has that level of support?
    Nope?
    Not even scrapebox has managed to keep going that long for a one off fee yet. (It probably will, SF is another superb software provider with an eye for service)
    I don't know about you but knowing some software is just "going to work" when it turn it on is very high on my list of requirements when looking to get a new IM application.
    demondemon.com - full of details, discount and a great long term link packet offer.

    Scritty
     
  20. freller

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    I've got UD, BMD and Sick Submitter, and the latest version of BMD - and Ultimate Demon - are fantastic tools.

    However, the most flexible tool by far is one not mentioned here - Magic Submitter. That software allows you to code in any kind of site, not just using the built in templates that Edwinsoft, for example, provides. The success rate is very high and since it's gone almost wholly SOCKS it's fast now too - as fast as SENuke and with the sequential submission templating that SENuke offers.

    I love using the Edwinsoft tools but I find I use Magic Submitter more and more now, particularly with all the latest improvements.