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Blackhat Traffic - Junk Leads - Getting Banned?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Angelus_1984, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    Hello everybody,

    I see there are twi ways to profit from email submits...
    1.) lead traffic to someone else`s website/program (e.g. pay per download) and get a percentage of his commission for leads

    Advantage: he has to deal with the cpa networks
    Disadvantage: you get only a percentage of what you could get

    or 2.) you direct your own traffic to some website e.g. promise people to let them watch the full movie and use codebreaker to make them fill in email and or zip submits....

    now since these guys have no interest in the cpa offer at all the advertiser shouldn't be too happy about paying for bad traffic, right?

    Now I know everybody here recommends keeping the CTR low and spreading offers over different networks... but I have heared never make more commission than 50 bucks per month per network.

    Now my question is how do the big players still get paid by delivering thousands of junk leads? Are advertiser just happy with the mails so they can send the guys one offer after another and eventually sell something?

    I really hope someone can help me out with this since I make some money with legit leads and don`t want to loose the money because of getting banned. But I still wanna grab the additional blackhat commissions.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. Gradimir Stankovic

    Gradimir Stankovic Power Member

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    Just use adscendmedia, they are happy with that kind of leads.
     
  3. Jeremy_AM

    Jeremy_AM Regular Member

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    Well, yes and no. We do have the content gateway that is similar to BHCB, but we do not accept "junk leads", junk traffic, or anything that you can't be upfront with us about.
    That said, our content gateway does have many email submits and other 1-page offers which convert very well.
     
  4. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    So let's define junk leads in more detail.

    I think about giving people freebies and they fill out email submits in return. Is this acceptable to you?
     
  5. RicherJack

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    The word you're looking for is incentive.
     
  6. Canuck

    Canuck Junior Member

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    Yea, Incentive and Junk are completely different things. You're looking for incentivized offers.

    Considering they have content and file gateways.. I'd say yes, they're okay with incentivized traffic.
     
  7. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    What do you mean by content and file gateways? Are you referring to the fact that I REALLY DO provide files and content in return for the lead?

    So if the cpa network explicitly states that the offer can be incentivised it does not matter how many leads I get whether I produce 50 or 500 usd commission?

    And just out of curiousity what is the actual difference between incentivised leads and junk leads.

    And thanks to you all for the clarification!
     
  8. Jeremy_AM

    Jeremy_AM Regular Member

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    There are offers of all types that allow incentives. That does not make them junk.

    We have hundreds of incentive offers, and have been running many of those offers for months. Some incentive offers have been around for years. These advertisers do turn a good profit from the traffic. So it's not junk traffic. Junk traffic would be leads that the advertisers are obviously going to lose money on, such as when someone iframes an email submit and the user never even sees the second page of the advertiser's offer.

    Angelus, a gateway makes the user complete an offer before they gain access to your webpage, download, etc. We offer both a content gateway and a file gateway. You can find details about both on our site. And yes, you can send 50 leads or 5,000 - the more the better - so long as everything is legit.
     
  9. RicherJack

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    An incentive offer is one where you give the lead an incentive to complete the offer. This incentive might be a download, a video or even a tangible product or tender (money).

    A junk lead is simply a lead that is of poor quality, and therefore, advertisers try to avoid publishers who provide such leads like the plague.
     
  10. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    Cool. That sounds good to me 'cause in the end you can't scam people indefinately and you will eventually found out. I just mixed up the definition then.

    Whenever the advertiser is happy, you are happy and I am happy. We're all happy and can have a barbecue with some margaritas and senoritas ;)

    Looking forward to work with you. Is there anything that can speed up the application process like leaving some specific comment in the comment section so you know who is applying?
     
  11. Jeremy_AM

    Jeremy_AM Regular Member

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    yeah, that would work. or PM me with your email address.