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blackhat is meant to be unethical not illegal.So why do blackhatters do illegal stuff

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hell0, Aug 8, 2008.

  1. hell0

    hell0 BANNED BANNED

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    Basically im talking about prstorm.Blackhat is supposed to be methods unethical/banned from google.However a lot of blackhatters use prstorm.This isnt unethical and willl get you banned from google.NO.It is spam, illegal, and can ban your internet connection!

    I see no problem in blackhat, its just competition, twisting the rules a bit, but i think people are taking it too far, like using prstorm which is illegal.

    Like i wouldnt care being banned from google for blackhat, no harm, just start a new site and blackhat, but iw ouldnt want to be in trouble with my i.s.p
     
  2. boomboomer

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    You can't generalize things and then question them. Also, everyone has his/her own self defined limits which you can't question. It's just about how far is one willing to go.
     
  3. mazemiami

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    Black hat is illegal gray hat is what you speak of at least in my mind

    ::edit:: trouble with your ISP that's gray hat to lol who cares if you get a call from them

    black hat would be more on the lines of hide someones at the door .. lol
     
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  4. kalekom

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    What???

    What's illegal?? Using PRstorm is not illega and no way it can ban my internet connection.
     
  5. yuppy

    yuppy Regular Member

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    PRstorm is not illegal.
     
  6. enovator

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    I smell some thing fishy here.
     
  7. yuppy

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    like an admin from an affiliate network? or just a douchebag from EPN forums/dp/wf
     
  8. hell0

    hell0 BANNED BANNED

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    you mean me? what about? im jsut new around here tring to find out a few good methods...

    or maybe im an undercover crime buster, ready to give out death penaltys...


    take your pick :D
     
  9. justmeron

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    pr storm is not illegal and BH is not illegal. It is unethical. Many programs can get you tagged for spamming. If used incorrectly. Just use pr storm in moderation and you should not have any problems.
     
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    [​IMG] No results found for blackhat.

    Did you mean blackheart (in dictionary) or Blackhat (in encyclopedia)?

    Rumor has it some people in here fish out of season and some wear white after labor day.
     
  11. djedje70

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    none of ur fr#$%ing biz dude!!!
    Who cares if it's "unethical"?
    Politicians lie in your face everyday and start wars for freaking $$$ and get away with it.
    Preachers from all religions lie in your face and steal your money. Some even rape children and get away with it.
    Major corporations will hire you until the day they outsource your job to a third world country just to save $$$ and please their friends on the board of directors. Oh yeah, and they also get away with it.
    ClitBang and other affiliate programs (not all of them though) will cheat you out of your commission and get away with it.

    If you like it, then maybe you should be more white hat, else... welcome aboard!!!

    It's just a matter of adjusting your opinion on what is ethical. All of the above are not in my opinion.
     
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  12. justmeron

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    Well I guess based on the deff. given in the encyclopedia link BH can be illegal. I think it boils down to the individual, how much risk they wanna take.
     
  13. Yukinari84

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    if you have any problem with a method, or you feel like you can't handle the fact that what you're doing may make someone else unhappy, then don't do it. In fact, in no way to I mean this in an offensive way, but just by reading what you're saying, I would recommend that you don't use blackhat. when you use blackhat, you have to have already come to grips with the fact that what you're going to do may not be liked by some, and then prepare properly for this. If you aren't first prepared mentally, than you're just setting yourself up for getting caught and maybe banned because you won't be covering your ass.

    so if you are coming onto a BH forum and crying that the methods might get you banned, than IMHO you're not ready to be here.

    just my 2 cents.
     
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  14. a0rta

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    I have done a lot more illegal things in my life so why should I bother? The worse thing that will happen is that one get banned and if/when that happens it's just to throw up the business again. If one count on the risk form the beginning it's no problem. In a world where people murder, rape, robb etc etc. Who really cares if I cut myself a pice of Internet?

    Also.. How many here haven't steped a little bit hard on the pedal when driving? Anyone who will consider that to be a crime or even bad to do? Guess not too many and the ones who do.. Well,, ya better get off this forum now before your parents finds out what sites you are visiting! Oh wait.. I'll do that for you !!FUCK!! - So there the netnanny kicked in ;)
     
  15. hell0

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    thanks yukina.

    im not really into blackhat, there just one blackhat software i really want...

    im not too concerned about ebing banned from google, but i am concerned bout my ass in jail or a fine for illegal activity
     
  16. kalekom

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    Sending email spam might get you in trouble but not backlink generating.
     
  17. MaestroDelWeb

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    PRStorm is probably the least illegal black hat program out there. It's a referrer spamming tool, it doesn't automatically add comments to blogs, forums, emails or anything else, there would be no reason for the program to be illegal.

    I had a problem once running PRStorm where Comcast shut me down for the night, but I think it has to do with how many threads I was running at once and for the period of time I was doing it. I never got a phone call or anything. I think I was running so many threads for several hours that it looked like they were being Ddos'ed (or however you spell it) on my IP.
     
  18. Nick Flame

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    What's with all this new wave of preachers that joined the forum in an attempt to convert us to whitehat? This is like 3rd thread i see in a matter of days.

    Here is an idea for you boys: How about you mind your own business, do whatever blackhat you think is ethical and comfortable for you AND LET US DO OUR OWN BUSINESS.

    We were doing just fine and we don't need your principle of morals to govern our actions.
     
  19. matapples01

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    The email stuff will get you into trouble (can spam) but not link building. It's called automation.
     
  20. bruce6667

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    bcuz illegal = fun.