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Blackhat in Real Life

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by zackm, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. zackm

    zackm Junior Member

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    Imagine if there was blackhat in real life, this is roughly how it would look like..

    Picture this : You were employed by KFC to promote them. Your job is basically to give out flyers. You can be paid per sale, paid per lead or paid per click. These are the 3 basic earning methods online. So let's go through them.. :)

    Paid per Sale (You earn a commission when someone buys from KFC but they have to be holding onto your flyer)

    You give out flyers to people looking for a place to eat (White)
    You're tired of giving out flyers and decide to make videos promoting the KFC flyers instead (White)
    You employ more people to help you give out the flyers at appropriate places (White or black, depending on how you do it)
    You stick your flyers at appropriate place for people to take, if they wish to, instead of giving it out (White)

    You give out flyers to everybody and everywhere ie. in the cinema, in the toilet, gym etc..(Blackhat, according to some companies)
    You give out flyers only to people about to enter MacDonalds, Pizza Hut etc. (Greyhat)
    You mentioned there's a lucky draw so more people would eat at KFC but actually there's no such lucky draw (Greyhat)

    You give out the flyers to the people who are already inside KFC about to order (Fraud)
    You slip in the flyers into people's pocket without them knowing while they were in the cinema, toilet, gym etc (Fraud)
    A new flyer distributor was employed and you give out your flyers immediately after you see him give his flyers, without him or other people knowing (Fraud)


    Paid per Lead (You earn a commision when someone fills up a form that they're interested to eat at KFC)

    You give the form to people looking to eat. (White)
    You give the form to people about to enter MacDonalds, Pizza Hut etc (White)
    You're tired of giving out forms and decide to make videos promoting the forms instead (White)
    You employ more people to help you give out the forms at appropriate places (White or black, depending on how you do it)
    You stick your forms at appropriate places for people to fill themselves instead of giving it out (White)

    You give the form to everybody and everywhere ie cinema, toilet, gym etc (Blackhat, some companies don't like this)
    You mentioned there's a lucky draw so more people would fill up the form but actually there's no such lucky draw (Greyhat)

    You give the form to your family and friends and ask them to help you fill up the forms(Fraud)
    You fill up the forms yourself (Fraud)
    You fill up the forms yourself using machines you created (Fraud)
    You give out the forms to people about to enter a cinema, saying they have to fill up the form or else they can't enter the cinema (Fraud)


    Paid per click (You get a small commision when someone takes your flyers)

    You create a pin-board where people can take the flyers if they want (White)
    You promote the pin-board so that more people can have a look at the flyer (White)
    You ask your family and friends to help you spread the word about the pin-board (White)

    You promote your pin-board(s) everywhere. (Blackhat)

    You force someone to take the flyer when they visit the pin-board without them knowing (Fraud)
    You ask your family and friends to help you take the flyers (Fraud)
    You take the flyers yourself without anyone knowing (Fraud)


    Others (All white but "hard" work. But they pay the best)

    You set up a new restaurant selling KFC chickens at more expensive prices. People who buy don't know that they're actually KFC chickens. You name it TFC chickens.
    You manage to get in contact with Colonel Sanders and he gives you the best prices ever. You then sell the chicken cheaper than at the stores but you still make a profit.
    You yourself cook the KFC chickens for your customers and charge them slightly higher.
    KFC decided to sell off one of their stores and you help them look for a buyer.


    You set up a new restaurant claiming to sell authentic KFC chickens but they're actually fake. (Illegal)

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    P.S I'm not, in any way, associated with KFC.. JUst that I just had KFC for dinner and its still on my mind.:)
    Do not PM asking me for KFC flyers, I do not have them..

    Basically, in my opinion, blackhat basically means spam, or using tools to spam, get to no 1 etc, make sure you are seen..
    Fraud, on the other hand, is a totally different story altogether.. Good night.
     
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  2. CosmicSoundz

    CosmicSoundz BANNED BANNED

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    shut up noob. I thought this was entertaining.
     
  3. fistor

    fistor Regular Member

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    Not like "What's your favourite Meat" was any better :O
     
  4. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    You have 1 reputation. Doesn't that tell you the community does not appreciate your type of input. It is out of politeness that I don't point out someone who off the bat asks if someone else is mentally retarded or goes off immediately and only about how stupid a thread or question is, might themselves be mentally "not there" or on an autism spectrum. Go get help.

    OP, wouldn't Blackhat KFC be like...like making a bunch of restaurants that may or may not be chicken related...and whenever someone goes to one, you either send them to another, or you give them chicken that's been made with "egg whites" instead of "egg yolks," but you tell them where they can get "egg yolk" chicken: At your money site. Money store.

    EDIT: "You slip in the flyers into people's pocket without them knowing while they were in the cinema, toilet, gym etc (Fraud)" lol

    "You force someone to take the flyer when they visit the pin-board without them knowing (Fraud)" hahaha or you force feed them cookies

    "You give out the forms to people about to enter a cinema, saying they have to fill up the form or else they can't enter the cinema (Fraud)" isn't fraid, it's content locking.
     
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  5. matessim

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    Lol, thanks for your effort OP , i found this mildly amusing.
     
  6. JimmyWong

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    I found this to be a great read on an otherwise dull day. Quite entertaining. Thanks.
     
  7. tashrif

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    Sorry to say man, i didn't like it
     
  8. zackm

    zackm Junior Member

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    Lol.. I'm actually giving u guys hints here if you could read between the lines.. :)
     
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  9. PureBlack

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    i'd take review copies all the way. nothing better than free kfc chickennnn
     
  10. JimmyWong

    JimmyWong Registered Member

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    You sold KFC pretty well. Now all I can think about is goddamn fried chicken!
     
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  11. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    OP, don't waste subtlety on people who pronounce the b
     
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    michael8t6 Regular Member

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    hmmm chicken!!

    Would this not be blackhat?? In theory you're offering the customer a chance to win something that just doesn't exist, meaning you're scamming them or committing fraud??
     
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    Damn nice read. Had a tiring day, and this thread makes me think of fried chicken, just as I need to sleep. Calling in the delivery now!
     
  14. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    we're not brothers, guy. it's a little embarrassing for me that you'd think otherwise.

    and, come on, i know i'm clever. think? you clearly don't know me.

    sorry this must awkward for you.
     
  15. zackm

    zackm Junior Member

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    Good question michael,

    Yup, I agree some ppl may see it as fraud.. But I see it as blackhat/greyhat.. You're basically not forcing people to fill up the forms.. They fill off their own will.. Thats just my 2 cents..

    As you said, this could be viewed either ways..

     
  16. Junkfood00

    Junkfood00 Elite Member

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    Now bring me them KFC :angryfire
     
  17. michael8t6

    michael8t6 Regular Member

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    I agree whole heartedly :) I have videos out there for fake keygens and other stuff that isn't delivered. I don't frown on it one bit! It's one of the easiest methods to start out with, just when I explain to my mates what I do online the first thing they say is "So you scam people for a living" I don't see it as that myself! To me scamming is something like a HYIP or saying "give me $500 cash and I'll deliver x,y,z products" then to do a runner with there hard earnt cash. But to get someone to waste 5-10 mins of there time doing a survey is completly different! It's not like we're literally taking money they have spent 5 days a week earning..

    I just ment in the general publics eyes they may see it more of a blackhat/fraud/scamming method instead of a grey hat, all methods are greyhat or white hat to me :)
     
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  18. Beingakrant

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    The moment I saw this comment, I thought this fella was being a dick by saying so...And then, I saw this Rep and literally burst into laughter. 3 Cheers to Blackhatters. Who're always being awesome..

    Btw ... OP You've got some brains.. Superb analysis.

    Cheers :)
     
  19. tb303

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    oh man... now I want a KFC so bad!
     
  20. ziggle

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    Damn.... now I have a craving for KFC!