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BlackHat does not equal Fraud -An interview with a fraudster- Fraudsters I'll ban your a*s

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by bornformoney, Jun 9, 2012.

  1. bornformoney

    bornformoney Senior Member

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    While I was in a little bit of bad mood today, this interview had cheered me up.

    This should be a sticky for all the CPA'ers thinking to mess around with proxies and CPA offers. Blackhat does not equal frauding the industry. Frauding is, well quite simply, theft.

    Below is a little text interview from someone who is very arrogant and doesn't regret what they are doing.

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    Although I am not as proficient as C2M at dickrolling , I tried my best :D

    For others thinking to go this way, no matter how good your proxies are, how unique your subnets are you will always get caught at it. 100%. (at least with us)

    @Fraudsters, Your proxy traffic doesn't convert for shit. How does it sound if I disguised and robbed you naked? - Pretty sure that's not what you want from me. Do you?

    Anyway, if users are not going through co regs for email submits, simply advertisers will not make money. They are not looking for "this kinda traffic"

    Blackhat is simply finding a smart way, twisting things around, to make them work for you, for some benefit/reward at no major harm to others.

    Blackhat Does NOT equal filling in your own offers
    Blackhat Does NOT equal clicking your own adsense ads
    Blackhat Does NOT equal shitting at your own place
    Blackhat Does NOT equal being a douchebag
    Blackhat Does NOT equal "insert an idiotic move here"

    Don't mask it saying it's "incent traffic", when in fact you are trying to incent it from your own computer for fraudulent reasons.

    From the above chat, you can clearly see this fraudster thinks what he's doing is genius and legit. And also goes on saying that the traffic converts for good, blablabla...it won't. Just won't.

    Quit your efforts on this shit and rather build a legitimate business. Focus your efforts on something you will be proud of. Something you can look back after 10 years, and say to yourself, "wow I made a lot of money while helping people". It's always not about money, but satisfaction. If you are not satisfied, then what are you doing shit for?

    I know there are tons of people here going after cakeslicers and shit, fact is, I've been in your shoes and it just doesn't feel right after a while. At least to me it didn't. It's nothing I can talk or scale about.

    Anyway, I hope this is helping the forum out...

    Got tons of work to do, Peace :)
     
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    Patel Senior Member

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    Damnit I just got dick rolled. :(

    Edit: None the less, I completely agree. Too many idiots on this forum that are bragging about them committing fraud lately. Whether it be through Adsense, CPA, whatever.
     
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    Speaks to their level of intelligence/experience that they'd even mention BH to an am
     
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    Thank you for making this thread. This should be a sticky. People should really stop taking shortcuts in this industry and thinking they are smarter than networks.
     
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    Guess people get too caught up in black hatting and forget where the line is.
     
  7. bornformoney

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    lol oops sorry...should have mentioned in the OP not to click any links from the chat xD...it reminds me of what harro did for "free jr.vip" :p

    On a serious note, I second that. People who are doing fraud and shit are having vision problems. They don't have enough vision to forecast how their financial future will be.

    Just shucks.
     
  8. mojstermiha

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    So basically he wanted that you scam yourself, LOL:D

    Reading this made me a little sad. I read everyday how Wall Street ruined peoples lives and how bankers screwed the general population. And then you see people like this fella. Scamming other business every day, providing fake services with no return/no conversions. He is no better than the majority of brokers. He lies, deceives and steals for a living. In fact, I would say he's the worst kind, even thou he didn't steal billions. (hopefully)

    Bankers didn't cause this crisis. Lazy thieves did it, and we have them in every industry, not only in financial sector.

    P.S.: Sorry for my political outburst. I am just sick of seeing everyone around me complain every day while they should be working instead.
     
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  9. bornformoney

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    or to an owner...lol

    seriously though, I am fine with BH, as I do it myself too, and I am okay with my affs running it too, but when it comes to proxies and fraud - it's a whole new game.
     
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    True dat.

    Being partner is a no go with Youtube if your views are manufactured in ANY way. Some people think Networks are safe but they wont loose their Adsense for you for anything.
     
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    I just +Repped you, this shit is just too funny :D
     
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    Blackhat marketing is basically an aggressive form of marketing which
    often involves the use of automation apps/scripts. People often confuse
    Blackhat marketing with Blackhat hacking.They are two completely
    different animals and have nothing to do with each other.

    "Wiz"
     
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    bornformoney Senior Member

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    Well Said, Wiz.

    Sadly some people cannot come to this realization without harming others.
     
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    That is also how I understand BH. Automation like Scrapebox, Auto-Backlinks etc. Cheating people of money and getting different IPs to fill in forms fall into the fraud category.
     
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    That was some funny stuff.

    OP, you inspired me to pick up a throwaway domain and do a redirect to the DR site, to be used when someone insists on pushing the wrong buttons, LOL.
     
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    I second your opinion as well, in making it a sticky as I personally do find it important to protect our affiliates, networks, and advertisers.

    I do not mind taking a few shortcuts, but there is a fine line between a shortcut and a fraud-cut.

    Can't wait to see how many of these people will be caught as we progress along.
     
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    lol yeah make sure it's something 'marketing' related...so that it will be relative to the context when someone "pushes the wrong buttons" :D
     
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    I really enjoyed that. Some people are sooooo stupid.
    You shouldn't be afraid of stupid thieves, but of the intelligent ones.

    D.
     
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    hahah that was real funny, where the hell do you find people like this??