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Bitly - will it give the same link power as if I posted the naked link?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RuthSam, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. RuthSam

    RuthSam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Just wondering if bitly will give the same linkpower to my site as if I used the real / naked url?

    I found a lot of high authority websites (Pr 7 - 9) where I can post my link using Facebook and Bitly so I hope it helps.
     
  2. diesel1

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    Bitly is basically a 301 redirect; thus, yes, I think so
     
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  3. rogerke

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    You'll lose a fraction more. With a normal link you lose "X", but because the bit.ly acts as a 301 you'll lose roughly double the amount of link juice as with a normal link. Generally it's believed X is about 15% ( it just evaporates), so you'll keep 0.85x0.85=0.7225 instead of 0.85 of the link juice.
     
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    aha, okay... thank you very much for the answers.. If it just give some linkjuice it's fine with me.
     
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    As for the topic, what do you think about links in comments through Facebook comments plugin?
    Does it give some link juice?
     
  6. javierlo

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    I thought that a 301 redirect was just like saying: hey I moved the content so now It's here!. So wouldn't it pass all the juice? I found a post posted in moz http://moz.com/learn/seo/redirection that say that almost all of the juice 99% could pass.

    Anyway take a look to the article It could help
     
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    I don't think anyone has a definitive answer to that question but I would tend to go more with rogerke than Moz there.

    For starters it makes sense that there will be some lost as there is more resistance in the link juice traveling through the redirect. That is another step in the process.

    I've not done any real in depth testing myself so this is just a common sense thought process and perhaps we'll do some testing and post the testing process and the results at some point in the near future.



     
  8. rogerke

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    Matt Cutts* and others at Google have said numerous times that 301's pass the same amount of link juice as general links. I think everyone is in agreement with that. If Moz actually states (didn't read the article) it passes all the link juice, they're wrong once again. Every link loses X amount of link juice. The exact number is proprietary but it's said to be 10-15%.

    Now the dispute may arise wether Google sees a 301 redirect as a another link as well or wether sees it a a direct exentsion of that link. A bit hard to explain with words but maybe this makes it more clear:

    Example 1: blackhatforum.com >>LINK>>301 REDIRECT>>LINK>>yourdomain.com
    Example 2: blackhatforum.com >>LINK 301 REDIRECT>>yourdomain.com

    I always understood it's the former, but I might be wrong. In the former example you'll obviously lose a tad more link juice. In the second example the transfer of link juice will be exactly the same as a direct hyperlink. It definitely won't make or break your rankings though.

    * Source: https://www.seroundtable.com/redirects-links-pagerank-16419.html
     
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