So i see a thread titled 'Looking to hire someone for my Ecommerce site', out of interest i open the thread to see whats needed. OP is looking for someone to add some products to his/her website, i think to myself "hmm this is a service i may want in future to help save me time and effort" So i scroll down to see the replies and look for potential candidates and all i see is fucking "pm sent with details"........"PM me for my rates" ......... "sent you a pm with price" ..........pm, pm, pm, fucking pm. This happens on nearly all freelancer threads i see not just this one. Why not put your fucking rates on the thread itself, That way other people who maybe interested in the same service will also be able to see your rates and pick out who they wish to contact. Your losing potential customers because they wont be willing to fuck around pm'ing you all to find out which suits them best. I mean why would you not put your rates right there on the thread? I can only assume its because they are fucking extortionate rates and you would rather take it to pm so you can better manipulate the OP into taking you on to do the work. Put your rates on the fucking thread ffs I'll actually be opening a thread in the freelancer section soon and you know what? if you pm me your rates i will fucking ignore you.