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Bit of a rant - Freelancer section

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Hawkster, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. Hawkster

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    So i see a thread titled 'Looking to hire someone for my Ecommerce site', out of interest i open the thread to see whats needed. OP is looking for someone to add some products to his/her website, i think to myself "hmm this is a service i may want in future to help save me time and effort"

    So i scroll down to see the replies and look for potential candidates and all i see is fucking "pm sent with details"........"PM me for my rates" ......... "sent you a pm with price" ..........pm, pm, pm, fucking pm.

    This happens on nearly all freelancer threads i see not just this one.

    Why not put your fucking rates on the thread itself, That way other people who maybe interested in the same service will also be able to see your rates and pick out who they wish to contact. Your losing potential customers because they wont be willing to fuck around pm'ing you all to find out which suits them best.

    I mean why would you not put your rates right there on the thread? I can only assume its because they are fucking extortionate rates and you would rather take it to pm so you can better manipulate the OP into taking you on to do the work.


    Put your rates on the fucking thread ffs

    I'll actually be opening a thread in the freelancer section soon and you know what? if you pm me your rates i will fucking ignore you.
     
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  2. Conor

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    I think it's because most of them don't even read the thread. They just post a generic automated response on every freelancer thread that pops up.

    You won't believe the number of guys who add me on skype, after I explicitly state NOT to do so.
     
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  3. ziplack

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    On freelancer secction they should post exactly whats needed to do
    and people can post their rates
    that will be great
     
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    I haven't done business with anyone in the Hire A Freelancer section for a while now, but when I did the reason I would PM the OP was to prevent bumping the thread (which would cause other people to see it and reply to it). However, I rarely put "I'll PM you my rates" as this defeats the whole purpose of not bumping the thread.
     
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  5. Nonilol

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    "Hiring full time webdeveloper 10$/day" wouldnt attract that many candidates either :D
     
  6. Haspel

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    Maybe some people just dont want to be underbid by the competition.
     
  7. Hawkster

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    Fair point, but the OP has the benefit of the pm's anyway, he/she can take the cheapest offer and/or go back and forth to see if anyone would drop their price because they was offered cheaper by someone else. OP has those benefits.

    Me as a user who may be interested in that service also, gains no benefit, Unless i go around pm'ing everyone who replied, which im not going to do, nor will many others. So there is money being left on the table potentially by not stating your rates on the thread.

    You may run the risk of being underbid, but if your response includes info such as your experience, past work, and any other relevant information then price kinda doesnt matter, im more likely to try a guy with a higher rate if he comes across as someone who clearly knows what hes doing, than a guy who has simply posted "i'll do it for $5"



     
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  8. GringoMonkey

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    The first question a freelancer should always ask you is "what is your budget?"

    So in their defense why doesn't the op publish his project budget and that way they are simply saying yes I will do it for this or if not they won't reply.

    I suspect it is for the same reason most freelancers don't publish their rates - because they are prepared to negotiate.

    Welcome to the service business!
     
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  9. Haspel

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    Thats true but making a public bid will give your competion a bidding starting point while when its done in private you can still be offering the lowest price without worrying about being underbid. I admit it can get really annoying but private bidding is widly accepted practice and most freelance sites operate in that way.
     
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  10. archon10

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    Doubtful there is anyone commanding good rates on this forum, but when I have hired in the past, the robo bids are annoying. A LOT of people do them too.

    On the flip side, those robo bidders make me look great when I come in and snipe the customer. People complain about them, but I love them. I'd rather be up against 20 robo bidders who bid the lowest rates possible than a couple other great bidders. The robo bidders just prove my point that I'm worth more than they are when I submit a good proposal to the customer.
     
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  11. Hawkster

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    Yeah i suppose it would help if the OP added what their budget would be in the original post.

    But then it would be a take it or leave it deal. And those that leave it (who could quite possibly be the best person for the job) could have been the best person for me. So me as someone who may be interested in the same service is losing out still.

     
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    wizard04 is right. People will be ready to work for peanuts. But then they deliver terrible quality. In the end buyer will endup wasting his/her time and enfforts.