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Bing Launches Way to “Disavow” Links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RedPanda9, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. RedPanda9

    RedPanda9 Junior Member

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    What are your thoughts on this? I know people are waiting for Google to do the same.
     
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  2. artificial_genius

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    Probably won't mean much since Bing is terrible at detecting bad links to begin with.

    If anything this is so they can gather data as to what links are bad based on what links people 'disavow'.
     
  3. RedPanda9

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    When Google comes out their version blackhatters are gonna go crazy with testing spam links lol
    We'll know exactly what percentages of what type of links and anchor texts work or trip filters/penalties. That exactly what google doesn't want so it'll be interesting to see how they handle that.

    They just need to go back to dropping link value instead of giving the links a negative value.
     
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    Bing's new engine is extremely good at deciphering poor links (their new update around 3 weeks ago). Google, on the other hand, is extremely bad at it.
     
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    Google set precedent with penalizing sites for bad links. Now that other search engines are jumping on the disavow backlink bandwagon, this ensures webmasters will be spending more time monitoring their backlinks to flag suspicious entries. This goes a long way in focusing on creating compelling and useful content as Google proclaims they want doesn't it? lol

    Legitimate small businesses are going to pay the price of monitoring their backlink profiles. It's another waste of time and money, for an unproductive activity, but it will surely benefit the SEO industry in producing more clients.

    What a joke organic search is becoming. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Bing for moving forward with a disavow option as they expect Google to launch one soon. They are competing search engines. Instead of just not counting the value of a link, like Google should have done in the first fucking place, thousands of webmasters will spend millions of hours sifting through billions of backlinks in not one, but two search engines. WTF kind of stupidity is this?

    Instead of wasting time sifting through links, like we have nothing better to do anyway, would it not be easier just to blast the fuck out of competing sites? It sure seems like less work, a potentially quicker way to reach the top of search engines and might just be fun.

    Hey Matt Cutts, please get your algorithm and your head out of your ass and don't count bad backlinks. If this shit is left to continue, the internet will become a cesspool.
     
  6. SuperLinks

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    It's just a way for Bing to prove they are staying "ahead of the competition"....

    To be honest it really doesn't mean a whole lot, as assphuck pointed out, this will further fuck things up with the search engines.

    This does prove a few things, that backlinks can penalize websites (atleast on Bing) and that backlinks can be manipulated AND do obviously provide some type of value.

    Penguin was created to throw everyone a loop, and attempt to prove that backlinks aren't everything. As we all know on this community, backlinks DO still mean a lot in regards to rankings.

    What I'm gonna love is the abuse that's gonna be possible from the disavow feature. Now we'll be able to manipulate our rankings even further by disavowing low quality links. We'll also be able to disavow links to help mold a decent, realistic, anchor text ratio, and much more.

    This is a step back for search engines, not a step forward.
     
  7. lancis

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    Lets try to understand the logic behind Bing's move.

    Assume I want to create a negative campaign for some website.

    Ignoring xrumer for a moment, lets concentrate on the tool most of the people are familiar with - Scrapebox. Scrapebox blasts 60,000 websites/hour. Average success rate is 10% (the percent of live links), e.q. in one hour an average user can create 6000 links. One day long campaign is 144000 live links. One week long campaign is 1008000 links.

    Now thats very smart of Bing, they probably said: "Hey, lets make the life of the poor idiot even harder, not only we punish him, but also he will spend the rest of his life on clicking the 'remove link' button".

    IMHO, whoever, is behind this genius idea should play chess more often.
     
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    I love how when Google makes a algo change, the rest of the internet adopts to it and has to change their way of business because of them. One business should NOT have that kind of power and influence over the ENTIRE internet. Until someone knocks Google on their ass, it's going to stay this way. Their game, their rules, obey or it's over.
     
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    Oh, Bing, Little Bing... have ye no faith in the website owners trying to rank their sites?

    Have ye no faith in backlinks, on site SEO, meta tags?

    Do you think us site owners are all trying to game you, poor Bing?

    Have we crossed the line of mistrust?

    Please, oh, please allow us to backlink our sites dear Bing.

    We mean no harm at all.

    Oh Bing... do not let us down after we so easily figured how to rank in your dime store algo... please!
     
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    I normally frown upon people who mindlessly blast Google because of an update that fucks up their rankings, simply because people quickly forget that it is because of this same evil giant entity, Google, that most of us are able to make a living (or a fortune).

    However, you state a simple and valid point. A single company should not have control of the entire internet as Google does.
     
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    You cant stop with Google when you analyze our food chain. Every single vendor, whose products occupy your desk, is responsible for your success. However, thanking them for that is like thanking Morgan and Stanley for the financial infrastructure they created for YOUR success. Note, the 'your', as I suspect that word is not part of their equation. :)
     
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    I don't really care about their algo updates, it rarely ever effects me. The problem I have with Google is their business principles. They go around saying they won't "do no evil" crap, and that's all they do.

    Google is the internet's EVIL dictator.
     
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    Do you mean scrapebox and xrumer links?

    On other hand, it seems over-optimisation filter doesn't exist on Bing, since my sites that have been hit by penguin are ranked very good on bing. These sites backlick profile consists of manual blog comments (on non-related blogs) and web 2.0 links.
     
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    Hello, anyone tried it yet? I have tried it yesterday for one of my sites that is good, but has terrible backlink profile and sucks in all search engines and i wonder how fast can I see some results?
     
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    It's officially been said by Bing that the tool won't do anything noticeable. This is because it's probably not removing anything. More than likely it's just collecting data for future algos in order to decrease the viable link pool. Do you seriously think these any of these webmaster tools exist to help you rank?
     
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    Sh.. so I have to delete those links manualy? Well then im pretty much fuc.. I will wait few days and see if anything happens.
     
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    Will give this a test as well :)

    I have no where found on Bing, so maybe its possible to establish some rankings :)
     
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    Ranking on Bing is easier than shooting fish in a barrel... in fact it is a little known fact that rhesus monkeys maintain many first page rankings for a variety of KWs using bananas, fruits, nuts and berries as backlinks and a variety of termites, grasshoppers, ants and beetles for onsite SEO and content.
     
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    This is all fine and dandy but what about social spam links? Let's say someone buys 250k of fake social bot traffic on fiverr and sends it to a competitor. Google will detect these signals are not real and will penalize the site for this. Would it be possible to create a disavow social link removal tool also?

    I think this disavow tool in general will makes googles job ALOT easier. Why? Google will see the trending data and incorporate this into their algorithm, once that happens I believe you will see higher quality search results. I could even see sites that frequently get reported for negative seo to be deindexed or lose significant value.

    Should be interesting...