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Biggest JV! - Is it possible?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SpellZ, Aug 10, 2009.

  1. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    Since we have so many people here, why can't we make a big JV? Like 30 people (a rounded number)

    Divide the work, and do it. Or it won't be as profitable as we would like it to be? Then enter a very massive niche like Dating or Making Money Online and SEO the shit out of it

    Linkwheels, blogs, articles, backlinks, youtube, Twitter, etc.

    Divide the work between people and by the end of every day we show what we've done. It'll take like one hour a day MAXIMUM. And if we end up creating our own product, it can be totally profitable.

    Imagine we get 30 people, and put all the 'money making' advice into it. With MP3s, spread-sheets, .SWF files, Bonus ebook, and sell it for like $147 per product.

    With each product sold, each person will make around $5, but if we have 30 people working on it, we should hit 10k/day traffic quite fast.

    And even if we have 1% conversion, that is 100 people. that is 100 x 147 = $14, 700 / 30 =

    $500/day per person.

    We keep it white hat, but do only 'safe' black-hat activities.
    After we hit 10k visits a day, we can totally keep it up for around 30 days

    $500 x 30 = $15,000 by the end of the month


    Heh, the idea sounds good. But so does communism. Doubt it'll work :(
     
  2. Newfangel

    Newfangel Newbie

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    Hey, I'll try anything once! LOL I'm in, just tell me what you need!
    NewfAngel
     
  3. kikiriki

    kikiriki Power Member

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    sounds cool to me. i am in!!
     
  4. lucius

    lucius Power Member

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    I'm in
     
  5. blackmagiquellc

    blackmagiquellc BANNED BANNED

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    the biggest JV i've done was (6) people which worked well if you can trust the other parties

    You would only need about (10) people to build a multi million dollar business in just a few weeks online
     
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    darklegion Regular Member

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    It all lies in the trust of people... What happens if one member starts to slack off?
     
  7. true3000

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    hey why not...i'm in if it ever comes to light
     
  8. gb5000

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    If you can arrange weekly meetings and have a sort of conference call between parties every other day or so, organize tasks so you know whos doing what, have a website where everyone reports in to list what they've done, etc. etc.

    I love the idea! Lets do it! Hopefully we can find a way to organize it!
     
  9. farfetchedmoney

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    Someone would need to break down the economics of so many partners. I cant translate having so many people taking a cut of the cheddar. Which is why I don't believe in partners unless someone can open my eyes to something bigger than funding your own shit and outsourcing.

    Can someone help me understand why someone would want 10-30 partners for a project?

    P.S. SHOW ME IN NUMBERS HOW IS THIS GONNA MAKE YOU A MILLIONAIRE QUICKER THAN LAUNCHING YOUR OWN CAMPAIGN AND SCALING UP.
     
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  10. Whisker

    Whisker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Make sure you separate the organization right.

    RICO
     
  11. gb5000

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    Far fetch,

    I think one reason would be to decrease outsourcing funding and workload. If you can minimize your workload by partnering up with folks who know how to do certain task as good or even better than you would, I think it could be to both parties benefit!

    Now, if you so happen to have your own bankroll, than yeah, maybe outsourcing is for you. Or, maybe combine that bankroll with someone else's bankroll (of trustable status however) and bring in an even BIGGER profit if you find a workable method!

    Now, FINDING quality people, THATS the challenge!
     
  12. moremoney

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    The only way I can see it working is if everyone had there own unique skill to bring to the table. Then they could all hit different methods at the same time.
     
  13. farfetchedmoney

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    Yeah but how is that gonna make you more money? Everyones skill will make them x dollars per day partner or not. If a person needs that many partners then obviously they don't have the skill to carry their own weight in the first place. All they are doing is pooling their talents together, but, there really isn't any monetary gain.
     
  14. farfetchedmoney

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    you decrease outsourcing but now you have a decrease in profits so essentially your in the same boat. Splitting profit 10-30 ways will add up to what you would make on your own. Hence $500 a day. I would think people with talent who is making money would pass on this However, like you said finding investors for scaling up is not such a bad idea.
     
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  15. zenerchi

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    thats a good size for ewhoring.

    half the team posts and the other half flags posts in the same city we post in. we can dominate big cities.

    pm: if you like my idea. we can also get a super moderator on board for the money to go to and from there he can split the funds to other partners. i think we can trust the super moderator not to take the money and run.
     
  16. farfetchedmoney

    farfetchedmoney Regular Member

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    or you could go to DP and hire flaggers
     
  17. keropikero

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    I am in too if a JV is formed. I am good at being meticulous. My day job is accounting.

    I vote to have someone with high trust to lead us.
     
  18. moremoney

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    Skills overlap though.

    It wont just be (Person A Revenue) + (Person B Revenue) = No additional Revenue

    There Unique skills should combine to create a wider market hence more revenue.

    So - (Person A Revenue) + (Person B Revenue) + (wider market from combination of skills) = More Revenue for both
     
  19. farfetchedmoney

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    ok help me with the wider market thingy. Person A and Person B have seperate skills in seperate methods right? How can they help each other?

    Say you have PPC skills and I have design skills.We split the profit, cool for one project. Now how would this work with 10-30 people? This aint no art heist.
     
  20. moremoney

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    lol.

    Yeah that number of people does seem unfeasibly large, but if they did all have unique skills which could be intergrated and merged I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work.

    As long as the trust was there and everyone was pulling their weight, isn't this how big businesses are run at the top level, they employ individuals who have unique skills to bring to the table so they can reach as much as the market as possible.