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BHW Special Badge - for sales + $1000

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I just saw a SL from a likely victim of a $6000 scam. Possibly he will be refunded, but he is not the first one at risk of losing thousands of dollars on the forum marketplace.

I know there are projects and work being done for a Marketplace 2.0 and something more secure but my proposal is simple and IMMEDIATE in effect to prevent victims of scams that can literally do a LOT of damage to your life.

Create a special badge, to sell items over $1000 on this forum, you need to submit an ID, have years of experience on the forum, extensive customer history, no previous problems of any kind. Surely there are some sellers here who are exemplary and would not suffer from this.

To sell products over $1K:

Was your profile created less than 2 years ago? REJECTED
Do you have many Shit List problems? REJECTED
Are you unwilling to submit an ID? REJECTED
You have no sales history? REJECTED
Is this your first time selling a product on BHW? REJECTED

REJECTED = start selling cheaper products and building trust between customers and the members of this forum
APROVED = you are trustworthy, a member with a sales history, have nothing to hide, and are an enterprising seller, take your golden badge here.

Perfect to end these profiles created six months ago or bought on other sites and are trying to sell IG verification for $4K USD without any kind of identity verification and sales history on the forum.
 
I appreciate the sentiment this thread provides. However, it’s the buyers responsibility to research who they’re buying from & whom they decide to trust.

Good idea in theory. However, just to process those requests, would require more staff, and man hours put into the verification process.

Id say consider seeing what MP 2.0 brings first.
 
Good idea in theory. However, just to process those requests, would require more staff, and man hours put into the verification process.
Wondering how many thousand dollar deals go on daily now... Wondering if that bit of security would bring more of them too.

Cool topic.
 
anything can be faked dude id stats whatever

trust is never option

not to mention bought or hacked accounts

hold transactions as a 3rd party and release money to sellers with delay
 
I appreciate the sentiment this thread provides. However, it’s the buyers responsibility to research who they’re buying from & whom they decide to trust.

Good idea in theory. However, just to process those requests, would require more staff, and man hours put into the verification process.

Id say consider seeing what MP 2.0 brings first.
I appreciate the words.
I believe there are few sellers who sell such expensive items. Most are less than $1000, I'm not sure if that would increase the moderators' workload that much, although obviously, yes, it would increase it somewhat.

And buyers usually trust the blue badge, it is a sign that the profile is supposed to be honest. A golden badge (for example) would mean another level of reliability, someone who really went through a verification process, built trust in the forum and deserves to have a badge different from the ones used by new sellers
 
Mods can only do so much when approving sellers on bhw
they hope most sellers will retain some honesty in that the service
they test and approve will be the service buyers get.
sadly there will always be some deceptive sellers pulling a scam
but remember not all sellers are bad, some of us worked our asses off.
 
anything can be faked dude id stats whatever

trust is never option

not to mention bought or hacked accounts

hold transactions as a 3rd party and release money to sellers with delay
The BHW accounts sold out there don't have 5000 posts, 6300 reactions, and active sale threads with dozens/hundreds of good reviews.

They are usually profiles from 2011 that suddenly rejoin and have never sold anything.

It's hard to think of members who make a lot of money on BHW honestly, selling their accounts to scammers. I can't imagine @RealDaddy for example selling his account for $200
 
The BHW accounts sold out there don't have 5000 posts, 6300 reactions, and active sale threads with dozens/hundreds of good reviews.
They are usually profiles from 2011 that suddenly rejoin and have never sold anything.
It's hard to think of members who make a lot of money on BHW honestly, selling their accounts to scammers. I can't imagine @RealDaddy for example selling his account for $200

my account will never get sold, to many people from bhw no my voice on skype
and to many mods no my pm style and words of choice.
200$ i wont even get outa bed for that.
 
I just saw a SL from a likely victim of a $6000 scam. Possibly he will be refunded, but he is not the first one at risk of losing thousands of dollars on the forum marketplace.

I know there are projects and work being done for a Marketplace 2.0 and something more secure but my proposal is simple and IMMEDIATE in effect to prevent victims of scams that can literally do a LOT of damage to your life.

Create a special badge, to sell items over $1000 on this forum, you need to submit an ID, have years of experience on the forum, extensive customer history, no previous problems of any kind. Surely there are some sellers here who are exemplary and would not suffer from this.

To sell products over $1K:

Was your profile created less than 2 years ago? REJECTED
Do you have many Shit List problems? REJECTED
Are you unwilling to submit an ID? REJECTED
You have no sales history? REJECTED
Is this your first time selling a product on BHW? REJECTED

REJECTED = start selling cheaper products and building trust between customers and the members of this forum
APROVED = you are trustworthy, a member with a sales history, have nothing to hide, and are an enterprising seller, take your golden badge here.

Perfect to end these profiles created six months ago or bought on other sites and are trying to sell IG verification for $4K USD without any kind of identity verification and sales history on the forum.
i saw that shitlist as well. I doubt it will get solved. Seller will most likely get banned.

your idea makes sense. one thing though: another member mentioned that IDs can be faked. I agree. Since BHW serves a global audience, I doubt you can find a solution to address this. Rest of what you said, I totally agree.

I am still surprised at that shitlist: a buyer paid 6K to someone who joined less than 2 years ago: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...ervice-and-not-refunding-me-my-6-000.1418239/
 
Basically it boils down to ' caveat emptor ' at the end of the day.
 
The moderators are already doing a very thorough testing of the product. With your reqs people will just buy aged accounts and send fake IDs. Otherwise KYC check and that would be ridiculous.
 
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The BHW accounts sold out there don't have 5000 posts, 6300 reactions, and active sale threads with dozens/hundreds of good reviews.

They are usually profiles from 2011 that suddenly rejoin and have never sold anything.

It's hard to think of members who make a lot of money on BHW honestly, selling their accounts to scammers. I can't imagine @RealDaddy for example selling his account for $200

well you have scammers of all kind of stats, even bigger numbers turn into scam, no number or sales amount should be considered when buying

you have factors such are burn out, dead business, dead service, sensitive service such account supply, ignoring responsibility, building own sales policy while selling under another platform policy, health or other issues, debt

all these factors are shouting and turning out seller into scammer

smart scammer with subscriber base will do x10 more in revenue after being shitlisted only

back to line one, everyone seeks security when buying and you can't afford security by your ideas

I would say that the only security is in holding transactions, buyers money with bhw for a period of time agreed between parties

bhw could go with a fee and win win for all
 
You know, I appreciate where this is coming from.

I wouldn't go as far as creating a special badge, but adding checks into the pre-existing review process for certain services could go a long way toward preventing some guy selling high-priced services with a bought account.

I'll run this by the team on Monday and we'll see what we can implement.

Update: It's something for MP 2.0, but not the current marketplace.

Question Answered, Thread Closed
 
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