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BHW PBN Sellers - 3/4 year Later ? Crap Service

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by darulez, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. darulez

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    Me"Change of Anchors to Naked url?"
    Seller: "Nah bro, cant do that"

    M"What happend to xyz posts from the past?"
    S"oh, that site got deinxed"
    M: "20???"
    Y"Yeah. but we moved the post to (xyz crappier site"


    Me"Could you change xyz here "
    S: "yeah, will be done..." (never heard again)

    Me: Looking for the status of some post. 50% Of the Posts are gone. Or Deleted. Or sites got expired. No refund. No move of posts.

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    it's a crap guys.

    Sadly, that time it was not "you pay what you got". Last year, I did a mix of cheap sellers and reputable guys.. Honestly, the "reputables" might have a tick stronger domains (like +5 RD on onverage ... ), but the "customer support" was also barely tolerable.

    som azzhole even starts to delete the paid posts (and he is STILL ACTIVE HERE selling other shit on bhw!) and recycles the site for other stuff:

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    same azz has 2 sites deindexed too.

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    Sum it up?

    Dont buy stuff from a "biz model" that cant fund itself. Selling PBN posts will not fund themself.

    honestly. I am done with that stuff. It's to inflexible, ROI is poor.

    For sherterm rankings, however, you can go with it. but most of those sites will be expired, deleted or deinxed after a year.
    If you stick to the "more expensive sellers" here you might be lucky if you get replacement......
     
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  2. maildigger

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    Some sellers are renting out links. I'm considering those...
     
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  3. darulez

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    yeah.

    for blackhat endeavours, sure will be better.
     
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    Yeah a lot better to rent PBN posts. A lot more expensive but you usually get quality domains with strong metrics.

    Better still is to build your own PBN network which is what I am aiming to do. Full control of links.
     
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  5. humphrytools

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    either build your own PBN or go for monthly rental ones (ofcourse they can be costly but still). Or stick with your own public blogs (web 20s) + private blog networks.
     
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    One of the reason why I'm building my own network of both PBN and web2.0's I want to have full control of the links
     
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    Sad that this isn't called out by more people because we all know sellers can't sell permanent blog post for $20 and keep that network healthy without any recurring rent. It's gonna get bloated. Each month they just give you more too. Same problem you see on Konker.
     
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    agree.
     
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    You could always name them if they're still selling the same service still.

    There are some good PBN link sellers off here, some I use.
    One of these guys has an account on here, but doesn't sell anything.
     
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    I feel that would be to much good karma for them calling them out ...
     
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    So what about any other future buyers of their services?
     
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    you imagine buying pbn link from domain that goes 404 before the link starts working
     
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    Holding people accountable wouldn't be a bad thing. Not sure about the rules here but you could shitlist them for not providing what they promised in the sales copy of their thread.
     
  14. darulez

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    the one dude paid back 50% of the order.
    I asked one mod, he said it would be ok.

    the others, weill, I do hat my fight with them..

    however, I am done with that.

    it's @Nargil "it's either PBn or blogpost"...


    for now. and a bit of automated panel links...
     
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    Thanks for this, was considering trying some bhw pbn services on a lost risk site I have, but looks like this is a waste of money. You saved me a few bucks thanks brother.
     
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    depends on your goals.
     
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    best investment you can do right now in seo is having your own PBN
     
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    This doesn't mean that all the resellers on the marketplace are bad.
     
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    Also you have to taken into consideration the fact that there are a finite number of blogs in a PBN, so if you buy several packages from the same seller then you're likely to get backlinks from the same domains.

    At best the links will last 6 months before the PBN is exposed or loses its metrics - sellers don't really do anything to upkeep the metrics that existed when they purchased the (expired) domains, so you're never going to get permanent high quality link juice from most PBN's because they'll be gone or far less powerful than they were upon purchashing.