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BEWARE of Matt Bacak retires program!

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by blackwarrior, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. blackwarrior

    blackwarrior Newbie Premium Member

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    I have received this e-mail from Russel Brunson:
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    Hey ....

    Yes, I paid him $1,000 for a 1 hour phone call.

    That one hour call resulted in over $50,000 in revenue within 7
    days, and is now responsible for almost $100k a WEEK (yes, a week)
    consistently in revenues...

    Would you like to hear that call? I actually recorded it for my
    own personal uses, but am willing to give you a copy...

    On one condition -

    That same marketer is retiring and GIVING away his famous seminar
    for only $1.00.
    If you signup for his seminar, I'll send you a copy of the mp3 from
    my call.

    Just follow these 2 simple steps:

    1st - signup for his workshop for $1 here:

    hxxp://m219.infusio*nsoft.com/go/mattretires/rb/

    2nd - in 30 days I'll get Matt to export a list of everyone who
    bought through my link and I'll send you a copy of the mp3!

    Yup - it's that easy. :)

    Here's the link again:
    hxxp://m219.infusio*nsoft.com/go/mattretires/rb/

    Thanks,
    Russell Brunson
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    I did my own research and found that, Matt Bacak is considered to be an expert in leads generation area. So, I've decided to spend a $1 and give him a try. I carefully declined ALL his upsell offers and got this "nice" email as a result of subscribing to "his famous seminar".


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    SAVE THIS EMAIL FOR YOUR RECORDS

    Hi ...

    Thank you for ordering Matt Bacak Retires!

    What you may not realize is you just got your hands on one of the most valuable training programs in existence anywhere -- and at any price.

    You can login to your account at:
    hxxp://www.promoting*tips.com/retires/

    Username: take
    Password: action

    ==============================
    IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING DIRT
    ==============================

    As part of the $1 Matt Bacak Retires Package you will receive a free issue of Matt's offline print newsletter, INTERNET MARKETING DIRT!

    Your first free issue will be in your mailbox soon.

    We know you'll find the information valuable because we make it easy!

    Each month on the 12th you will be billed $29.97 just before the issue ships. If you wish to stop receiving Matt's most powerful strategies that he's using to make millions in 2008 or need to change your mailing address or billing info, just email thedirt@powerfulpromoter.com.

    TO MASSIVE PROFITS!

    Matt Bacak, Founder
    Frontier Marketing Int'l

    PS: You can also profit immediately by promoting this hot-selling offer as an affiliate...

    See the full details below and take action:
    => hxxp://www.promoting*tips.com/retires/

    Username: take
    Password: action
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------

    Personally, I found this (to subscribe me to something without my explicit consent) DISGUSTING!!!

    Please BE WARNED!
     
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  2. boomboomer

    boomboomer Executive VIP

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    wtf???????
     
  3. TheStickiest

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    Hey Blackwarrior, you are right (that is disgusting)

    Joel Comm did the same thing (auto subscription for $29.95 a month
    to some crap) when you bought his Adsense guide 4th edition, and
    apparently people have been pretty pissed off about it..

    is there any chance we could hear that Russel Brunson interview? :)
     
  4. blackwarrior

    blackwarrior Newbie Premium Member

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    To boomboomer: bother to read?
    if not - what is the point to post?
     
  5. blackwarrior

    blackwarrior Newbie Premium Member

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    Hi TheStickiest,

    sure, I'll PM the interview to you, if I'll get it in 30 days, as promised...
     
  6. JonD6996

    JonD6996 Junior Member

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    And good luck trying to cancel the offer at that email address.. Let us know how that works out for you..
     
  7. jolt64

    jolt64 Registered Member

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    anyone capable of making over 100k a week has better shit (id assume, i know i would) to do then sell voice recording for $1. sorry, epic fail.
     
  8. boomboomer

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    Hey blackhatwarrior,

    I should have been more explicit to indicate what the 'wtf' was directed at!
    It wasn't directed at your post but at the email that you received.
     
  9. TheStickiest

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    Thnx Blackwarrior. I always hear about Russel Brunson but i dont think i have never seen or heard any of his stuff
     
  10. artswerdstone

    artswerdstone Power Member

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    Beware of all $1 to try programs. Usually these end very soon in a recurring billing. Adult sites use this trick since G*d knows how many years. The secret of this trick is an almost irresistible offer, with unnoticeable small print about the recurring billing part of the offer. Many of the enrolled clients forget to cancel the recurring billing subscriptions before it happens to see their card charged a few times. Hence this is the essence of the method, suppliers don't even bother to add valuable content to the subscription, but they add some quantity of crap just to say they delivered something.
     
  11. artswerdstone

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    I was also pissed off about Matt Bacak's content, just I didn't ordered, but I found his link through search engine. And there are so many others selling sh*t, that BHW's shit list wouldn't be enough to post about all of them, but eventually you could make a full portal site about all the sh*t sold for naive people who don't recognize the scam.

    I recommend to search first for information through search engines before stuffing self-declared guru's valet. In many cases you can get your desired information for free.
     
  12. jr1984

    jr1984 Newbie

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    Thats the oldest trick in the book.

    Did you read the sales page before you ordered?

    It says right where you order you will be billed for his monthly program. There is nothing tricky about this. Just open your eyes and read next time.
     
  13. blackwarrior

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    I've got response from Matt Bacak and it says that my subscription was canceled.

    Well, I think you are right on this -> This is my fault, I HAVE FAILED to read the small print.

    Now, I've analyzed and summarized what happen and why I was REALLY pissed off by the guy, and as I just have found I am not alone: hxxp://www.search*tempoblog.com/index.php/beware-the-matt-bacak-retires-internet-scam-its-not-1-its-us2797-per-month/
    So, I guess I am not a complete loss :D

    Anyway, there are a lot of $hit around, but certain things I hate with passion. I do not have anything against Matt Bacak, I think he is not a bad guy but I do have a problem with the sales tactics he used. What he actually did, I call: "trust manipulation". Let see steps on the setup:
    1. He got recommended
    2. Nothing in e-mail says about any subscriptions
    3. First think on the page: He convincing you that it is not about money but about going after "bad students" that ripped him off (poor Matt gets sympathy ;) here)
    4. It is not even about $1 dollar you pay, Matt will donate it to charity! (WOW, what a great guy!)
    5. The radars are off... World is such a wonderful place and I donating $1 dollar to the charity with the Matt's help and getting his wonderful seminar...
    6. And at the last, I finding out, that it is about money (We knew it from the beginning, right?)...

    THAT kind of setups is what I hate with the passion!
     
  14. AKOEAJA

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    Yes this is for Matt Bacak retirement not yours ! :)
     
  15. tomren

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    Russell Brunson is the master of signing up people for stuff that is
    billed monthly.

    Then it is next to impossible to get him to quit billing you, I will
    NEVER EVER again have anything to do with any thing he is selling
    or "giving" away for only a $1...

    tomren:cool:

    .
     
  16. heranesti

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    I was one of the guy paying him $1 for charity....

    Anyway, did anyone get the Matt Bacak video link to work? Every single one of them failed on me :(
     
  17. blackwarrior

    blackwarrior Newbie Premium Member

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    All Links but last one work, though I did not have time watch videos, just checked and downloaded stuff :D

    I will post direct links tohight
     
  18. jr1984

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    Blackwarrior,

    I can understand why you would be frustrated at his marketing tactics. I guess you can call them "Blackhat".

    Personally, I see nothing wrong with them. Yes, hes a smart marketer.

    I don't believe his sales letter mentioned the monthly subscription, but when you went to pay for his products it clearly states you are signing up to his monthly subscription and its not in small print. Just cancel the subscription, its that easy. Or cancel your card to be 100% sure.

    Donating to charity is a slick tactic many marketers use to get the sale and thats a great method to use.

    For $1 you are getting way more then your moneys worth and its a great deal. You even get 1 month of his newsletter absolutely free!

    Its funny how people call it a "scam" when they are just being ignorant.
    I guess people just did an "impulse buy" since it was only 1$ and didn't bother to read the sales page or examine it and thats their fault. Its sad how much people complain about everything.
     
  19. artswerdstone

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    If a newsletter doesn't bring me any profit, but it steals my time only, then how much is it's worth?
     
  20. jr1984

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    How will you know what information will only steal your time before you even read it?

    Is it a wise decesion not to do your research before you buy something or invest in something? Do you actually expect by reading a newsletter it will automatically fill your bank account with money? That would be faulty logic.

    There are many people that benefit from newsletters and you may or may not be one of them.

    Don't let fear hold you back from doing a little bit of reading.

    And whats the point of your one liner?