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Beware of CrazyJeff, he will give you neg itrader if you dont do what he wants

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Spud Jr, Dec 17, 2009.

  1. Spud Jr

    Spud Jr BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    CrazyJeff wanted me to do CL posting, since he wouldn't comply with my terms. I told him no. He told me if I didnt do what he said. He would give me a negative itrader.

    He gave me one and I never did any work with him.

    Jeffrey Coinstock: hey
    Jeffrey Coinstock: did you get my message
    bhwidow: nope
    Jeffrey Coinstock: wanted to pay for 2 samples what is the price
    bhwidow: 10
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 10 dollars for 2 ads
    bhwidow: its all abt time dude
    bhwidow: thats why we offer deals
    bhwidow: and i have amazing ads
    Jeffrey Coinstock: it should be about a dollar for a 2 ad sample
    bhwidow: maybe for you
    bhwidow: but my time is pretty valuable
    bhwidow: my ads are stellar
    bhwidow: one guy pulled 90 leads off an ad I made him
    bhwidow: one ad
    Jeffrey Coinstock: well I think you should let me sample 2 ads for a dollar cause you have no itrader
    bhwidow: so what, i have references and my prices are set
    bhwidow: itrader means nothing and that's a lame attempt
    bhwidow: a bunch of us got ripped by someone with many itraders
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I did get ripped by someone with one itrader
    bhwidow: i got ripped off a few times and I am not going to risk my business, name or anything for 10, 50 or 500 hell even 5000
    Jeffrey Coinstock: dont know how we can settle this cause i have 50 dollars for 1 week of 10 ads a day
    Jeffrey Coinstock: need to try first
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 10 dollars is too much
    Jeffrey Coinstock: will send dollar know
    bhwidow: well then find someone else who'll meet your terms
    Jeffrey Coinstock: here is my gamils I need forwarding too
    Jeffrey Coinstock: bellydancer991
    stockings2212
    Jeffrey Coinstock: cant risk investment
    Jeffrey Coinstock: burned too many timnes
    bhwidow: not asking you too
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so 1 dollar it is I will pay you 50 tommorrow for 1 week contract if I like the quality and get product
    bhwidow: my terms are set and final
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I do have 10 dollars to throw away but the terms are rediculous
    Jeffrey Coinstock: you must not want my buisness
    bhwidow: You are asking for two ads, which will most likely get you anywhere from 50-120 leads
    bhwidow: I want my terms met
    Jeffrey Coinstock: If I get those leads i will spend more money
    bhwidow: Well good
    bhwidow: I dont have time to waste on China prices
    Jeffrey Coinstock: then one ad for 1 dollar
    bhwidow: I am not from China, I work for a major marketing firm
    bhwidow: and my time is valuable
    Jeffrey Coinstock: if not 1 then 2
    Jeffrey Coinstock: thats as high as I go
    bhwidow: look, I am going to go take a nap.. we are going around in circles
    bhwidow: have a nice day and good luck in your business endeavors
    Jeffrey Coinstock: really want to try your services first before I buy
    bhwidow: Here I'll be this nice
    Jeffrey Coinstock: okay
    bhwidow: Here is one ad: Hey I am looking for a guy who has a goatee/facial hair who wouldn't mind going down on me, I trim but not all the way. (Oww that would be painful I think) I am 18, pretty new to the sex thing but I really want to get a few of my fantasies out of my head before I get sucked into a boring guy.. Hope to do this soon
    bhwidow: Go post it yourself
    Jeffrey Coinstock: whatever you must not want my buisness
    Jeffrey Coinstock: what is the lowest you will do for 1 ad
    bhwidow: dude i just gave you a free ad
    bhwidow: go try it
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I am not looking for a free ad I am looking to purchase an ad
    Jeffrey Coinstock: just 1 okay
    Jeffrey Coinstock: just 1
    bhwidow: thats my compromise. I just wrote you an ad, you can go try it. if you get good leads, then come back to me
    Jeffrey Coinstock: you are a cl poster this is your job
    bhwidow: I am not going to waste my time posting an ad for 1 or 2 since thats the highest you'll go
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so whats the lowest
    bhwidow: i like my terms met. I am not a CL poster, I normally just write ads but lately, I have been doing it cause I have a new software that enables me to post on CL
    Jeffrey Coinstock: then whats your lowest
    bhwidow: Like I said, nap time Good luck in business Jeff
    Jeffrey Coinstock: whatever I wanted 100 ads a day by next week but you messed up
    bhwidow: oh darn
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I am going to pay you first okay
    Jeffrey Coinstock: this is not free
    Jeffrey Coinstock: how about this I send you the 2 dollars for 2 ads and I see if you refund me or not
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I have your paypal
    bhwidow: Do not send me anything
    bhwidow: Please
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so whats your lowest
    bhwidow: Find someone else you can negotiate with
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so whats your lowest I still did not get response
    bhwidow: My lowest are my terms
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so what is it I forgot
    bhwidow: Jeffrey Coinstock: wanted to pay for 2 samples what is the price
    bhwidow: 10
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 10 dollars for 2 ads
    bhwidow: its all abt time dude
    bhwidow: thats why we offer deals
    bhwidow: and i have amazing ads
    Jeffrey Coinstock: why would yopu charge 10 dollars for 2 ads if you charge 40 for 10 ads a day it should be more than that
    bhwidow: It is
    Jeffrey Coinstock: for 5 days
    Jeffrey Coinstock: and 50 dollars for 7 days it dont add up
    bhwidow: I was being nice
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I am confused
    bhwidow: See,
    bhwidow: You are not respecting my terms so why would I want to work with someone who tries to cut every corner
    bhwidow: ?
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I see perfectly clear the number dont add up
    bhwidow: Then they don't add up
    bhwidow: Find someone else
    bhwidow: I am not the only ad maker out there
    Jeffrey Coinstock: you shoould be able to do 2 ads for a dollar going by your terms
    bhwidow: No I will do things by my terms
    Jeffrey Coinstock: and you never said how much two ads will run me
    Jeffrey Coinstock: or 1 for that matter
    bhwidow: Jeffrey Coinstock: wanted to pay for 2 samples what is the price
    bhwidow: 10
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 10 dollars for 2 ads
    bhwidow: its all abt time dude
    bhwidow: thats why we offer deals
    bhwidow: and i have amazing ads
    bhwidow: I am done with this conversation
    bhwidow: Seriously
    bhwidow: Find someone else
    Jeffrey Coinstock: why is it 5 dollars an add that means 10 ads would be 50
    bhwidow: There are plenty of dudes/ettes out there who are CL posters
    Jeffrey Coinstock: a day
    Jeffrey Coinstock: and 350 dollars a week
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I just cant see the middle'
    bhwidow: THEN DONT AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE
    Jeffrey Coinstock: what if there is nobody else
    Jeffrey Coinstock: dont you want my buisness
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 2 ads is nothing
    Jeffrey Coinstock: going by your terms for 2 dollras that is
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I know someone charging a dollar an ad okay
    bhwidow: good, go use them
    bhwidow:
    Jeffrey Coinstock: but yopu got getter prices
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so i am going with you
    Jeffrey Coinstock: but I am not spending 10 dollars without seeing results
    bhwidow: I gave you an ad
    bhwidow: Try it yourself
    bhwidow: It really isnt that hard
    Jeffrey Coinstock: your a scammer
    bhwidow: LMAO
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I am giving you negative itrader
    Jeffrey Coinstock: cause you tried to scam mwe
    bhwidow: You do, I'll be sure you get banned
    Jeffrey Coinstock: hahaha
    Jeffrey Coinstock: just do it okay
    bhwidow: I'll save this conversation
    Jeffrey Coinstock: you really shouldnt be a scammer
    bhwidow: You really shouldnt threaten people
    Jeffrey Coinstock: go ahead you have no itrader
    bhwidow: When someone doesnt do what you want
    bhwidow: I have this conversation and the PM's
    bhwidow:
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I will give you good itrader if you let me pay you 2 dollars for 2 ads
    bhwidow: Everyone will see it my way
    bhwidow: I dont need itrader
    Jeffrey Coinstock: who cares about BH I can always lurk
    Jeffrey Coinstock: but anyway you really should give me a deal
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I need a CL poster
    Jeffrey Coinstock: just say the magic owrds
    bhwidow: No I am not giving you anything
    bhwidow: In fact, I dont even want to work with you
    Jeffrey Coinstock: its not a deal going by the way you charge foor ads
    Jeffrey Coinstock: allright I WONT GIVE YOU NEGATIVE I TRADER
    bhwidow: All I do is insert it into my software and voila' No work on my part
    Jeffrey Coinstock: I am not an asshole
    bhwidow: You could have fooled me
    Jeffrey Coinstock: this conversation is boring me I will message you if I find nobody but remember I am not doing 10 dollars for 2 ads
    bhwidow: Remember I wont answer
    bhwidow: I am going to take a nap
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 2 dollars yes even for 1 ad yes but not 2 dollars
    bhwidow: going ice skating, need to be rested
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 10 dollars oopps
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so 1 ad for 5 dolars
    Jeffrey Coinstock: creazy prices
    Jeffrey Coinstock: really crazy prices
    Jeffrey Coinstock: must be the economy
    bhwidow: you ever go into krogers or randalls and look at the cashier and say something is 3 dollars say I'm not paying 3 dollars, I'll pay 50 cents?
    bhwidow: I am offering my time as a service
    bhwidow: if you dont like the prices, go elsewhere
    bhwidow: that simple
    Jeffrey Coinstock: you still didnt say if 5 dollars for 1 ad is good
    Jeffrey Coinstock: hello
    Jeffrey Coinstock: 5 dollars for 1 ad
    Jeffrey Coinstock: check your itrader you wont be scamming nobody anymore
    bhwidow: You are done
    bhwidow: I was actually writing the ads for you
    bhwidow: I will be cancelling those ads
    Jeffrey Coinstock: so your a scammer
    Jeffrey Coinstock: good luck on your scamming
    bhwidow: I am not a scammer
    Jeffrey Coinstock: got a sample ad for a dollar
    bhwidow: I am going to egt you banned for lying and manipulating
    Jeffrey Coinstock: and I am gettign leads
    Jeffrey Coinstock: told you not to mess with me
    bhwidow: I didnt do anything to you!!!
    bhwidow: I didnt want to work with you
    Jeffrey Coinstock: bye you shoulda been more lenient
    bhwidow: You are going to be banned
    Jeffrey Coinstock: spambusters FTW
    bhwidow: and I will get the trader off
    Jeffrey Coinstock is typing a message.
    Jeffrey Coinstock: GO SPAM CL NOT BHW
     
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  2. Spud Jr

    Spud Jr BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I didnt want to work with you hence the reason I charged like that

    A scammer is someone who takes money from someone and runs off. I never wanted your money.
     
  3. cdc515

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    perhaps adding a feature to itrader that will have both people agree that there was indeed a transaction and then they will be able to leave ther positive nor negative itrader rating.
     
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  4. Spud Jr

    Spud Jr BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I have every right to be angry. You tried to BLACKMAIL me into working with you. I decided after thinking on doing one free ad for Jeff, but then I got notification that I had an itrader message so I canceled the ad immediately once I saw who it was from. Rightfully so.

    I NEVER DID ANYTHING TO JEFF. I told him no. BEWARE, I have PM'S from him and I.
     
  5. pyronaut

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    Jeff your a complete moron. Whether or not the prices are right, you pay the price on the packet. You dont walk into any store and say "Nah that price is BS, ill give you this dollar in my pocket, and if you dont take it, im calling the police to say you sexually harrased me".

    Doesnt make any sense you retard.

    How can ni99a be a scammer if no money exchanged hands?
     
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  6. yousefgreat

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    If you don't like the price then stay away. Don't go on pulling threats and crap like that...
     
  7. Dutchess

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    I think Jeff's user name says it all 'crazy'

    Dude, seriously your a complete plank !!!

    Would you walk into WalMart and say hey 'person' I will give you $10.00 for this $100.00 item, I dont care if you say yes or no, here is $10.00 and I am going to walk out the door now.

    The cops would have you in the back of the squad car quicker than a Iraq'y with a VISA flying to the USA.
     
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    you should just fuck off if you don't like the price...
    find someone else...who can do the work for you
    you really are crazy jeff
     
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    Dutchess Registered Member

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    It is n00b's like this that make BHW shitty. If they where all banned and removed then BHW would be even better. Not that its not already a great place, but every master peice has a flaw somewhere, ours are these tit heads
     
  10. angelas111

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    yeah, what a prick. if you don't like his prices don't buy or attempt to negotiate if he is not open to it. or better yet "if you don't like it than pass the blunt to the n*gga on the left".
     
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    that's just not relevant at all. it's about him setting his price, and you either agreeing, paying the price and carrying on the transaction OR you disagreeing and not doing business with him. even if he charged 10k for his ads, it wouldn't matter. gl finding a cl poster though. there's some quiet good ones out there.
     
  12. markyr17

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    If you don't like the price, DON'T USE HIS SERVICES! Is that hard to understand?
     
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    I agree, there are some great posters out there - non of the them will deal with this n00b now though. I bet unless each ad gets 200+ leads he will neg itrade them too.

    I have a feeling...... he will talk someone into working with him,

    Get the ad's posted
    Get the leads
    Get the cash
    Get the girl
    Dispute with PayPal and end up getting it all for free leaving a highly pissed of BHW member.
     
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    bad luck mate. get over it, move on, find another poster and get your campaign up and running. you want to be making bank, go make bank.
    leave this to rest.
     
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    No jeff, everybody disagrees with you.

    And you know what? Your negotiation skill sucks hard. I think you've read Donald Trump's negotiation book or something and tried applying it, but it failed hard.
    If not, let me guess... when you grew up, your papa and mama gives you what you want so you become spoilt. Now you think everyone will give you what you want, so you apply, what in the negotiation world call, the childish negotiation skill. You ask for what you want or you go crying around and threatening if your terms are not met.

    And now what happened? Your name and reputation is stained in BHW. Everyone is going to avoid you.
     
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    face it jeff you lost the argument - accept it or leave BHW, no one forces you to come here..........

    pay the prices required and you wont get 'burnt'
     
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    Crazyjeff you are the exact kind of user that BHW does not need. You seem to just pout and complain when you don't get things how you say you want them. You don't take other people into account it seems. Like Pyronaut said above, you can't just name a price with everything in life. If you don't like the price move on, it's as simple as that.
     
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    If you don't like the price, don't buy the product. How hard is that to understand?
     
  19. Spud Jr

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    Most the ads that I have written for other players have gotten anywhere between 50-120 responses. I pull no punches and I know how guys work. We like kinky bullshit. So yeah..

    I have been here and I have given nothing but helpful responses to people, I have offered to buy domains for people who had no money. I have given content away for FREE. You can look through my posts, in none of them have I came off shady.

    I keep all my customers in the loop and if some snag goes wrong, I make sure it's fixed.

    I agree, there are some great posters out there - non of the them will deal with this n00b now though. I bet unless each ad gets 200+ leads he will neg itrade them too.

    That played in the back of my head. I wasn't going for it. He even offered to send me money to see if I would refund. I FLAT out refused. I HOPE NO CL poster if he is worth the salt decides to work with him. Go gauge your eyes out first.
     
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    That sums it up quite nicely.