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Best way to find out the Competition/Difficulty of a Keyword.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DeadJoe, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. DeadJoe

    DeadJoe Regular Member

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    Hello,

    I have recently been using the "Google Keyword Planner" and there are many potential keywords that I am able to shortlist. Even though some of them say low or medium competition, I want to know how Google is coming to that conclusion. I understand that there might not be many websites going for that particular keyword but it doesn't mean that I would be able to beat most of them for page 1. So my question is, how do you determine the difficulty of ranking a keyword? If I type that keyword on google and a bunch of websites show up, what metrics should I examine to determine if the competition really is low or high?

    Additionally, is there a keyword tool that can help perform this task? I would really like to find a decent Keyword tool that not only finds the keywords but also helps immensely with analyzing the competition. I think the money is in "identifying the competion" and I want to hear from all the pros and old timers on this one.

    Thanks in advance, all replies will be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. tony_d

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    The competition in GKWP relates to adwords bidding competition, NOT organic ranking competition.

    For a better tool, check out keywordrevealer.com (the owner is a member here, forgot his username) - you can do a basic difficulty evaluation with the click of a button.
     
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  3. DeadJoe

    DeadJoe Regular Member

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    I was wondering the same thing since the GKP is built for Adwords. Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it.
     
  4. Laubster

    Laubster Senior Member Premium Member

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    Spyfu.com also does SEO competition analysis. Takes some understanding of keywords and their scores before the scores start to make sense, but it's not bad.
     
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    Good share! Hadn't seen spyfu before - certainly useful data in one click.
     
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    You can try longtail pro for keyword analysis. It's pretty neat!
     
  7. DeadJoe

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    How to analyze the keyword metrics? should I just take keywordrevealer.com's analysis when it says "Low Competition" does that mean I can rank for it easily, just a little confused! Any detailed guides on keyword metrics out there?
     
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    There is a tool name keywordrevealer it give you data about keyword comp.
     
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    i have the same question.

    waiting for a pro to answer this

    thanks
     
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    Typically the advisory software explores the search results and finds how many sites have the same keyword in their title. This determines the approximate competition.
     
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    InsanelySane Power Member

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    If I was the owner all queries entered would be sent to my inbox with the corresponding difficulty.
     
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    for SEO competition, I have been using "Quoted Results" formula based on my experience. There are so many good tools (off course paid) which can do the same for you. For Example long tail pro!
     
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    Does the quote method still relevant for seo competition nowday?
     
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    Fair point..i would expect even an average businessman to do it in any walk of life. It goes without saying that all the SEO outsourcers, backlink builders and other will eventually have access to your keywords unless you are doing every single thing on your own. In the game of SEO, its not the hidden keywords that differentiates anymore, i guess, its your ability to knock out few punches and jabs with High Authority PBNs..
     
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    Thanks mate..the tool looks pretty handy...
     
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    The competition bar you see in Google Keyword Planner is for adword users.

    If you want to know your SEO competition you have to examine the first ten site on the SEPR for your keyword, as far as am concern they are your real competitors.

    Analyze the onsite SEO, PR, age and quality of backlinks.

    A good tool i recommend is Traffic Travis from SEO PowerSuite.
     
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    A pro knows how to analyze the SERPs by hand, and doesn't rely on a tool or a single number to do it.
     
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    Hello DeadJoe,

    Here we can use Google Keyword Planner tool is based for Adwords only.
    But using this tool you can guess the keyword with high competition. To finalize that keyword, you can compare that corresponding keyword with your competitor.
    Where as for Organic Keywords you should take Long tail Keyword.
    We should focus only for customers and not for robots for this you should prefer Long tail Keywords and even some LSI Keywords.
    According to google's humming bird algorithm it represents a conversational search.
    ie., what are the Best hotels in California? which seems to hotels in California / California hotels.

    Cheers!