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Best software can create own software

Discussion in 'General Programming Chat' started by aptamer, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. aptamer

    aptamer Newbie

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    I did google and find several companies have software that can make simple application, anyone has ideas? does it work for newbie without code skill? the software includes instantsoftwarebuilder, makeyourownsoftware, et al, I want to try, but no clue even on trial version.
     
  2. Wintermute

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    Myself or any other coders will have no time for people like you here.....


    GTFO and learn to code!
     
  3. Zak_A

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    Any "software creator" you mention is just bullshit.

    If you want to get your own software, you'd better code it yourself or hire a coder.
    Learning a programming language is a bit of work, but it won't take so long, espacially if you want to create "simple applications", and you'll get more benefit from your programming knowledge that you can imagine right now.

    If you don't want to learn how to code, then hiring a coder is still the best solution, and your money will be way better spent than it would be on a crappy so called "software creator"
     
  4. headspin

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    Aptamer, even the most expensive "software creator", as you call it, on the market, will not serve the most simple purposes if you can't already code a little.

    Learn some basic Visual Basic. It's how I started off, and I still do most of my coding in VB. Just google it, you'll find hundreds of tutorials if you don't wanna buy a book. And Visual Basic 2008 Express is free from Microsoft. planet-source-code.c0m has some great resources to help you progress once you know the basics. If you get lucky, you can find apps that do similar things to what you want to make on planet-source-code and all you have to do is download it, modify the code to suit your needs, mix and match, and re-compile it. That's my secret to ultra-fast coding ;).

    You can learn the fundamentals of VB in an afternoon if you really want to. Heck, if what you want to make is that simple, you can post questions on VB forums and other users there will really help you out, maybe even write the whole code out for you. And you'll save big $$$ on "automated software creation" tools.
     
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  5. tcflying

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    i don't think so..at least you need to write something.
     
  6. MaestroDelWeb

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    Au*to Pl*ay Me*dia Stu*dio is probably the best "make your own software" program. I've used it to create a couple of programs. The results are much nicer looking and more functionality than all the alternatives I've seen. It's very easy to use. I can't program shit and with this thing I was able to create some decent programs. You can also add code if you find a piece of code that you want to use. Instead of paying someone to completely code a program for you, you can do the major work with this and if you need something more complex added to a section of your program, you can just pay for that part from a freelancer. This is the same program that the people on the warez sites use to make those all in one programs.

    More information:
    Code:
    http://www.ind*igo*ro*se.com/au*top*lay-me*dia-stud*io/
    Version 7.1 Retail Download with Serial:
    Code:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/121762681/Au*toPla*y.M*edia.Stud*io.v7.1.retail.rar
    Here's the tutorial that showed me how to use the program (very easy instructions). The tutorial was actually made using the program, the writer used a shitty design, so don't look at it like that is what the output will look like. I've made very nice looking programs with this.

    Code:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/121763034/AIOTutorial.exe
     
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  7. Pofecker

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    I'd recommend actually learning a language, but I can understand if you don't have the time. I've hired coders for dirt cheap in the past and you actually get a decent product with the support needed to implement it correctly. If you looking for a simple product, then hire a programmer and get it done right. In today's market (US anyway) a lot of programmers are looking for work, take advantage. :)
     
  8. aptamer

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    I felt warm that many members gave good suggestions, Headspin, I will learn what you suggested, Vze2y, Thank you for your share. Actually, I want to create a small software that can be customized for printing coupon, but no idea where I can start, is it easy to make it by using VB for newbie?
     
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    Thanks for this. It will be useful.
     
  10. Choronzon

    Choronzon Power Member

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    I could do you a good deal on a "Hello World" program. $200 or less if you buy more than one ;)
     
  11. Zak_A

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    For only 300 bucks I will tell you how to say "hello world" in at least ten languages :D.
    (Let's say, C, C++, Delphi, Php, Java, Perl, ASM, Python, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Chinese, and oh well, that's more than 10 already, I should charge an additional fee for this info :D )
     
  12. aptamer

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    Hello guys, I have learned how to say" hello third world" with software, save me $300 bucks!:)
     
  13. Guddamit

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    Atta boy! At this rate you'll have Billy Gates shivering in his shoes knowing that he has real competition at last. Just kidding of course.

    Having programmed since the mid 80s I've often thought that there must be an easier way to create programs. I even had a look at the "Make Your Own Software" pos that is availble for marketers. This requires you to create a recipe. And all of the results I've seen a pretty basic. Imho its not worth the effort.

    You are better off taking the time to learn a programming language susch as Visual Basic or Delphi. For games I'd suggest C++, C# or Flash, depending on what you are wanting to achieve.

    There is a ton of code snippets and source code available for VB, and Delphi and as headspin says it can be used with modification and used in your own applications.

    I reuse code a lot when creating applications. It saves time and really defines RAD (rapid application development). If you are developing a line of applications that have a similar look or 'feel' then saving basic forms, modules, classes etc as templates will also save you a lot of time.

    As you get more proficient you can create your own specialty activex (ocx) or dynamic link library (dll) components. For example, recently I needed a calendar component that would suit my needs better than the MS one. As other third party calendar controls were either too expensive, or didn't have the functions I wanted, I built my own. Now I can add this control to future projects, no license fees or MS breathing down my neck either.

    Use the KISS principle when developing your interfaces. I don't mean just for you as a developer, but for your end user. Always develop for your end users' needs, not your own.

    Anyway, aptamer, good luck.
     
  14. headspin

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    Depending on what kind of coupon you're talking about and what customization you mean, you might actually be better off using a macro in MS word. What exactly do you want to do? If you insist on doing it in VB, I'd look on planet-source-code first and see if you can't find similar code. It can save hours of debugging and as a n00b it will teach you a lot about VB to see how other programmers do things.

    Also, congrats on making your first VB program.
     
  15. aptamer

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    Donor, headspin, very kind suggestion, real goal is to provide visitors a freeware download. various parts are input, output should be fixed part+various part, e.g. name, address upon user input, print parts should be : "Dear [name], and we are from [address]" with pre-designed background(like picture, color), freelance gave me minimum $500 do this kind job, is it worthy? some companies claim it is easy to customized for that.
    I only can do " hello world" until today. :(
     
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    How about a "Hello universe!" ? :D
     
  17. WizGizmo

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    By no means do I claim to be a programmer. However, I have been able to make a few simple apps without any trouble, using software like Neobook and Multimedia Builder. In fact, if you want, you can even go a little deeper with either of those two programs - especially if you hang out at their user forums and post questions to experienced users.

    But as far as real hardcore nuts and bolts programming goes, you need to have a strong desire and LOTS of time to learn such languages as Visual Basic, C, C++, Visual.Net, Python, Java, etc. In the past, I made a couple of half-hearted attempts to learn real programming, but couldn't maintain the self-discipline and focus required to go far enough. But at least I gained a new found respect and admiration for those who HAVE learned programming. It IS rocket science.

    Cheers! - "WizGizmo"
     
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  18. headspin

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    $500 is a ripoff for something like that. There are commercial software packages that would do more for a tenth of that price! Then again they don't come with re-distribution rights...

    The easiest way to do what you want is to create a Word document with the coupons already tiled and use Word automation in your program. You can code everything in VB and the program will run as a normal program (i.e. not within Word), but it will call on Word to modify the document and then print it. Only downside is that it requires the user to have Word installed, but I can't think of an easier way that doesn't require Word. It shouldn't take you more than an afternoon to make. Just google "word automation vb" or "ole automation vb". One good article seems to be hxxp://www.developerfusion.co.uk/show/1968/, which is geared towards beginners.
     
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  19. hoaxx

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    hI, i THOUGHT GIVE IT A TRY, BUT THE SERIAL IS NOT CORRECT.
    CHEERS.............HOAXX:cool: