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Best current web 2 automation solution (pref one off payment)?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Im not into this monthly fee shit. I would prefer pay one big one off than indefinite monthly fees. Then agian I could get one month then quit on and off etc. but thinking longterm if i like a tool i want to pay for it and be done with it.

    Ive been weighing up the costs and benefits of diff programs.

    I originally got zenno for the benefit of it allowing me to fix templates on the fly etc.

    senuke is overpriced shit as far as im concerned so doesnt come into the equation.

    Now Ive been dabbling with zenno for prob over 6 months months ish now I realize how much of a time hog it is. It pretty much sucks up ALL of my time making just web 2s. once they are done great but the little shit break every other day so debugging is a constant timesink and this is with only 12 I dread to think what it would be like with 30+. The alternative of buying templates is also ridiculous as ppl quote thousands for 40 or 50 templates when I could just get a one off lifetime package of ultimate demon for that.

    Which leads me to ultimate demon. Ive heard alot of ppl raving about this on the seo block of late. I like the dual option of either monthly fee or lifetime for 400 dollars.

    As I said I hadnt been looking into anything else for the past 6 months really since I had been using zenno exclusively- but in that whole 6 months ive managed to come up with the staggering total of 12 working web 2s probably less now cos they break nearly every day. Granted I could make them quicker now as most of that was due to leanring curve but still as I said the time thing is the big drawback of zenno.

    So interested to hear about the other tools on the block and mostly ultimate demon and if it has any rivals price/performance wise.
     
  2. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    I'd go with your initial thought.
    Having a great set of regularly updated sites to add (completely double tested to provide links rather than just massive lists of "fail" sites)
    Seems like a good idea to me!
    As for Zenno and Ubot - using them to create WEB2 when so many maintained tools do that for you is not the ideal use for them. There are so many other SEO tasks you can perfom with them that spending hundres of hours updating them to do the job a $350 one off payment tool can do would not be a good use of my time :)

    But then I would say that. :)

    Scritty
     
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  3. swi7ch

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    Link Wheel Bandit has a lot of Web 2.0 sites (plus other platforms too like social bookmarking). Unfortunately, since it has so many sites, it costs $50+ per month to keep it running smoothly. But you either pay or you keep doing what you're doing which is spending all your time debugging your ZP or uBot templates...
     
  4. cool.dude123

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    clyde is going to make one which will be released in 2-3 months
     
  5. Proseodeals

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    I am also looking for the solution,
    I have read about Ultimate demon and the reviews are mixed, because i also need it mainly for web 2.0s, its said that most of the sites supported by the software are nofollow and low PR(i am not sure as i have read about it in forums).
    Well, Market needs a good software for web 2.0 posting really!
     
  6. Ranko Jones

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    Hmm ye at first I thought ppl were mostly raving about ultimate demon but the more i read is the more mixed it is.

    W2s seems to be one of the hardest to find solid automation for with the specific nuances of w2.
     
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    I suggest ultimate demon. They do update so you don't have to waste your time tweaking your zenno templates. You could have made other important things besides updating your templates. Time lost is money lost.
     
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  8. Scritty

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    As standard only one of the premium WEB2 sites is no follow. No idea where this misinformation comes from. The top 15 provided "out of the box" are;

    Wordpress PR 9 Do
    Tumblr PR8 Do
    Opera PR8 Do
    Bravenet PR7 No
    Newsvine PR7 - Do
    Springnote PR6 - Do
    Dailystrength PR6 -Do
    Netlog PR6 -Do
    Soup PR6 -Do
    Thoughts PR6 -Do
    Blog PR6 -Do
    Blog.dot co dot uk PR6 -Do
    Blogtext PR5 Do
    Blogster PR4 Do
    Sweetcircles PR4 Do

    All PR4 or higher - 14 of the D0follow

    There are many more as standard PR3, PR2 lots of PR1.
    Then theirs lists like the one I provide bump that up to 200+ (of which most of my members have 150+ that work) the rest are made from Jcow and Elgg sites which are a mix of D0 and N0. They contain lots of PR1 and PR2 sites and a few PR3.

    You could create a 20 spoke inner link ring just using d0follow sites with PR2 or greater and an average PR of almost 5 (if you were stupid enough to over optimize your direct linking like that)

    Though why people are obsessed about inner rings made entirely of WEB2 (and thereby making such a fecking huge and easily identifiable footprint for Google to discover) is beyond me. There are some great article sites PR5, 6 and 7 again mostly D0follow, even some WIKI d0follow with decent PR. with the link tree tool there's no reason to make such an identifiable pattern and just use WEB2. I [facepalm] every time I see people do that.

    But I hear all this bollocks about "article marketing is crap" - or "all wiki are n0follow" (more crap)

    Article marketing has taken a huge hit. In terms of site numbers you can post to it's been hammered.
    BUT THE ONES THAT REMAIN ARE - IN GENERAL - THE GOOD ONES THAT'S PRECISLEY WHY THEY SURVIVED (durr!!)
    The crap was de-indexed, sandboxed, ignored NOW ONLY THE DECENT ONES ARE LEFT..and that's when the intelligently retarded go "Oh article marketings dead - I wouldn't post to them any more". Great, the good has been sorted from the dross - so NOW you leave article marketing? Great - more for those of us with more than 2 brain cells to get on with then

    A PR4 or PR5 link - is a PR4 or 5 link. Diluting a "WEB2 only" obsession with low Alexa Hi PR article, WIKI, press release and video sites makes perfect sense to me.
    Or you want to wait for Penguin 3 or 4 and the "The day they took down un-natural 1st tier link rings made of only WEB2 sites"
    Might never come of course, but I wouldn't bet against it.

    Scritty
     
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  9. dima054

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    Ubot is great as long as you accept (and know!) its limits.
     
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    Ultimate Demon is a good tool and if they continue to update it just like they did with BMD, then paying the one time fee is not a a problem.
     
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    I'm using BMD since 2009, and start using UD since 2011. and yeah they are good on Costumer Support and they always keep the product updated. Time is money, right? :)
     
  13. Ranko Jones

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    Thanks for UD vouches. In terms of adding your own sites how does it work? 150-200working d0000wfollow w2 would be spectacular and worth the price alone (the other platforms would just take the cake!)! Is it like AMR in that you just load up a bunch of urls you want and the demon uploads them if it find a template it recognizes? If so this really entices me cos its so easy to scrape a ton of links in hrefer ready to upload (vs spend a week tearing my hair out trying to find out how to get that one last 'sign up' click to work with zenno :D)
     
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    In UD, can you embed images and videos to your articles? So basically, does it successfully post in HTML?

    And can you specify an article folder (with spin-format articles) from where it'll grab an article randomly for each submission?
     
  15. omg123

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    doing a few hand written web 2.0 sites would solve part of your problem, and they would be around for longer, and they would have more value - unique content.

    but i have a question and i was also interested in the best automated web 2.0 tool as well as a link pyramid building tool - but i wanted to know do a lot of the sites that senuke makes get deleted ?
    reason im asking is because a lot of sites that are in the senuke list have automated spun content sites/posts in them that are indexed by google, yet when you click on the link the site/page etc has been deleted very recently, so what sort of success rate etc does senuke (and the rest of the tools) have - over a reasonable period of time - i.e. 3 - 6 months time.
    because a lot of people praise senuke on here - but i have looked for evidence to back it up and cant find any, and someone who has had success using senuke for a search term that gets a couple of clicks a day, would get to the top of that search term without senuke anyway.
    so has anyone had success for larger search terms - and if so what methods/techniques i.e. spun or hand written content and using what links and what strategy, if you dont want to post here then please pm me, as i was interested and thinking of buying senuke, but most software available do not quite live up to expectations.
    so i would obviously be interested in opinions as indeed the op is.
     
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    how come blogspot isnt in here ?
    because in my humble opinion it would be in there on top of the list.
     
  17. Enklave

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    what about semi-auto? Using RoboForm is not 100% automated, but can save a lot of time too
     
  18. WhitePassion

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    Bought Ultimate Demon lifetime and never looked back at Senuke X and whatnot.
    It's quite an universal tool, allows you to add your own sites and whatnot.
    Honestly, best purchase I've made SEO wise.
     
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    Yes - but not all sites accept the code (so it's not 100% foolproof unless you sort those that take the images and vids from those that don't
    And yes - you can either enter text direcct into UD (it has it's own spinner built in) or have it fetch text files and either randomize them or go through them sequentially posting them in order to each successive profile.

    Scritty
     
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  20. bramantya

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    i vote for senuke xcr, but zenno is the best if you know how to make a script with it...