Best CPA networks for CPA Iframing?

I'm looking to get a couple CPA Network accounts and I wanna know what are the most recommended if I'm gonna be doing CPA Iframing

annaestves said:

your question doesn't make much sense... you can iframe any offer you want, it just depends on what kinda offer you will be promoting and make sure the cpa you joining has those kinda offers.

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It made perfect sense. I asked which networks were recommended for the specific kind of CPA activity. Those that do that know which ones are less likely to suspect or catch on and ban as quickly and which ones are more likely to pay.

I'll wait for more knowledgeable responses

I was banned by M@xB0unty for Iframing, must have leaked but it was after 4 months and when I was banned I was doing 1k a week. Dont be greedy keep it small $25 a day and spread it out to 10 networks and your odds of getting caught will go way down.

Keep it with medium-sized networks, your earnings low and spread out between accounts. Stay away from ones such as NB, Hydra, Maxbounty, CJ, and so on.

Here is a list:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/cpa/10855-list-cpa-networks.html

I think You meant to ask which cpa networks are too dumb to catch you?

The answer is simple go with smaller networks go with plenty of em and spread it around like miracle whip.

zSpyderx said:

It made perfect sense. I asked which networks were recommended for the specific kind of CPA activity. Those that do that know which ones are less likely to suspect or catch on and ban as quickly and which ones are more likely to pay.

I'll wait for more knowledgeable responses

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but that depends how good you are at iframing... if you know what you're doing then no way any company will find out

tugax3 said:

but that depends how good you are at iframing... if you know what you're doing then no way any company will find out

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Sorry, but that's not true. While we might not be able to catch any leaked URL's, the merchant sure is going to notice that the back-end conversion on their leads is 0%. That's actually how many affiliates are caught iframing.

I dont put much stock in iframing offers - its easy to get caught, messy to produce, annoying to rotate, doesnt work in certain browsers - so many negatives, so little benefits.

Its a metric fucktonne of work to get this setup properly, thats not to say you couldnt, but that time could be much better spent on other areas of the IM world and at a much bigger profit.

Your time in this business is your most valuable asset - iframing offers has a lower return on investment than most other methods.

BTW i'm tempted to start locking threads like these as they add hardly anything to the general discussion of CPA, and they have been done to death. This technique is old and applied directly to freebie type email submits, it sucks hard. Add something new if you wanna dredge up this again.

zen19 said:

I dont put much stock in iframing offers - its easy to get caught, messy to produce, annoying to rotate, doesnt work in certain browsers - so many negatives, so little benefits.

Its a metric fucktonne of work to get this setup properly, thats not to say you couldnt, but that time could be much better spent on other areas of the IM world and at a much bigger profit.

Your time in this business is your most valuable asset - iframing offers has a lower return on investment than most other methods.

BTW i'm tempted to start locking threads like these as they add hardly anything to the general discussion of CPA, and they have been done to death. This technique is old and applied directly to freebie type email submits, it sucks hard. Add something new if you wanna dredge up this again.

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You can avoid being caught iFraming 99% of the time if you know what your doing, I'd say pretty much anyone who has worked with blackhat CPA methods can tell you that. :/

When running a iFramed campign, the back end conversation rate will be %0-10 as Steve said, which is how most people do get caught, or at least flagged, so to avoid this happening, mix in some white-hat leads, or at least some grey hat leads to that offer, so it'll boost your conversation rate. Annoyingly you can't view what the backend converastion rate is, but if you had 100 iFramed leads, send say, 150 normal leads, so you'd have 250 leads total, 150 of which should convert, so you've got a %50+/conversation rate, you can still get caught, but it's better then having a %0-10+/conversation rate.

Ahhhh now we can debate properly

My point is that for the time expended between sourcing networks, finding offers that convert and dont scrub, iframing their pages, checking that they still convert after iframing, repeating so you have your traffic spread on other networks, sourcing and applying alternative traffic to keep the back end conversion good...................all for a couple of hundred a day if you know what you are doing.

Oh all with the prospect of a hard ban - and loss of your WH/GH leads.

For all the time spent doing that you could have setup and run a number of other methods on here - and made twice as much with very little risk.

Dont get me wrong when I first found BHW, my eyes near popped out when I read about iframing - it seemed like the dream promotion method. I quickly learned it wasnt the case and moved on.

Some people may make their daily bucks with this technique (all my BH buds dont), IMO this is a method that will frustrate a lot of newbs and cause their accounts to get banned.

zen19 said:

Ahhhh now we can debate properly

My point is that for the time expended between sourcing networks, finding offers that convert and dont scrub, iframing their pages, checking that they still convert after iframing, repeating so you have your traffic spread on other networks, sourcing and applying alternative traffic to keep the back end conversion good...................all for a couple of hundred a day if you know what you are doing.

Oh all with the prospect of a hard ban - and loss of your WH/GH leads.

For all the time spent doing that you could have setup and run a number of other methods on here - and made twice as much with very little risk.

Dont get me wrong when I first found BHW, my eyes near popped out when I read about iframing - it seemed like the dream promotion method. I quickly learned it wasnt the case and moved on.

Some people may make their daily bucks with this technique (all my BH buds dont), IMO this is a method that will frustrate a lot of newbs and cause their accounts to get banned.

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iFraming isn't for newbies, I'll agree with that, but with iFraming, you can set up some very smart campigns, heres one that JUST came though my head, let's take a offer, "Win a pink iPhone", these convert like crazy, but the landind pages generally SUCK and there is generally "Win a CHANCE", what you could do, create a new landing page, iframe the e-mail submit bit and create your own landing page for the same offer, but you twist the offer around a bit, instead of having a load of "Submit your email to win a chance" or whatever, put text such as "Submit your e-mail to claim your free pink iPhone".

Now when the advertiser contacts the e-mail address, they will of remembered that they submited their e-mail to win a iPhone, they won't have any problems and it'll convert just as well as a white hat campign.

There are many more better ways to make money with CPA, but having knowledge in iFraming can improve your earnings by so much overal in the long-run, for example, when everyone was pushing rude.com links, it made it harder to get sign ups, but due to the simple sign up phase, it was first-page, so what some people did, was iFrame it, create their own landing page and BOOM, they had much better converastions.

iFraming is pretty risky with CPA networks, but if done right, can improve your earnings by a lot by running the exact same campign and if you were to use the method I said at the start, you may be able to find a CPA company which doesn't care too much, because it's the same thing, just your own custom landing page.

Loosing all the WH leads as well, would be a pain, but you could just send some traffic which would convert on the backend, such as CL traffic.

I'm only talking about the 'win free X' type cpa offers - I can see how iframes would be useful for other reasons and offer types. Your point on rude.com is very well made.

zen19 said:

I'm only talking about the 'win free X' type cpa offers - I can see how iframes would be useful for other reasons and offer types. Your point on rude.com is very well made.

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Yeah, but for a newbie to CPA, spending hours setting up a simple campign iframing a offer, then making $50 over a month, getting that check, I know I was happy when I did that, then I got annoyed when I lost like $500 because of a referal leak

Alex Brooks said:

Now when the advertiser contacts the e-mail address, they will of remembered that they submited their e-mail to win a iPhone, they won't have any problems and it'll convert just as well as a white hat campign.

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Just a small point. Merchants that own e-mail only campaigns (such as free iphones, etc.) rarely, if ever, contact the people who signup. There are just too many people who signup to make calling practical. Instead, merchants use other metrics to determing back-end conversion rate. These metrics are extremely hard to fake out when you are iframing.