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Below the fold SEO? What is it in Googles eyes?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by supermat007, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Ive just finished designing and building my site and its for a design company that im starting up, so SEO isn't super important at this momment in time, but I will be gradually building links etc.

    But my design of the site got me thinking.

    Very basically,

    Where my text is, its in a box that's 500px tall, and if more text is there than what can fit in the box then a scroll bar appears. So it got me thinking.

    If I was to write a really big article for SEO purposes, and the majority of the article was actually below the box so you had to scroll to read it.

    Does that effect SEO in anyway? Does that make a difference in the eyes of Google?

    Basically the design of the site is a fixed height and width design and all "business" content is made to fit, but if I wanted to add extra pages purely for SEO, and extra content but you need to scroll to read it, does that make any difference?

    Its not the browser window scroll bar, its an actual scroll bar due to text overflowing a div scroll bar, a man made scroll bar basically.

    Whats everybody's thoughts?
     
  2. flyingarmadillo

    flyingarmadillo Newbie

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    In my experiences, having some of your article below the fold will not affect SEO. However, whenever I am questionable about these types of situations, I google whatever keyword I am trying to rank for. Google the keyword, and check what the high ranking sites look like. This should give you a rough idea of what you should be doing.

    If you are new to SEO, do not forget a back linking strategy! You can write all the content you want, but without backlinks, it wont do you any good. Thats just my two cents.
     
  3. derekmhc

    derekmhc Junior Member

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    The text would definitely be seen by google and not your viewers. If it is done by CSS it should be okay as google wouldn't be able to tell if you are actually hiding the text. I would research that a bit more so you do not get penalized by G.
     
  4. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Like I said, flyingarmadillo, its the other way around.

    I dont want to be building all the links in the world whilst my actual on page SEO isnt up to scratch and thus making the backlinking worthless.

    Secondly, im not trying to hide anything from Google.

    If I had a page where there was no scrolling and all content fit on one page, compared to a page where the content was in a fixed sized container in the middle of the page and to read it you had to scroll inside the box (much like the quick reply box on here, if you type to much a scroll bar appears in the text area).

    ....Would this cause an effect / would google see this in a negative way?
     
  5. shakemelikeapig

    shakemelikeapig Junior Member

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    As long as the big article is fully loaded when the page is loaded then Google crawlers/bots will not have any problem reading the article. On another hand, If you use some kind of ajax, or iframe then yes, Google will have problem reading those.

    You should imagine the google bot is something like a terminal or console of the linux, it has ability to interpret texts (source code) and not actually the GUI of the website. of course, google bots to some extent can understand and interpret javascript, but you do not know what It can read so it is safer not to use any ajax/iframe to show important contents/article.

    So check your source code after the page loaded (with and without javascript), can you see your full article in the source code? if yes then google bots can surely read them as well.
     
  6. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    But they must have some kind of GUI interpretation, otherwise what's to stop you using css to write content and make it invisible, make it same colour as the background, change the margin so the text is off the screen etc.

    I mean if thats fine then I dont need to bother with "content" pages, I can just keep what I have an just put all the "content" on the current pages and just hide it somehow, small font or off page or camouflage or something
     
  7. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Sorry to bump, but after some further reading theres still no solid evidence or info for or against this.

    Just want to get this to everyone's eyes one last time in case someone might be able to share some light on this
     
  8. anz58

    anz58 Newbie

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    I don't think it affect it. I know Google have been announcing some of the updates of algorithm for below fold content, but as far as I know they are basically trying to turn the notch down on websites that are specifically designed for advertising, such as banner ads or adsense.