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Before buying an aged domain how to check if it's not penalized?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Drago05, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Drago05

    Drago05 Junior Member

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    I know i can check if the domain is indexed but even if it is indexed it still can be penalized (sandboxed). I have some domains that were penalized for excessive link building and they are still indexed and some of them even have PR2, but dropped in the ranking. How can i check if a domain is not sandboxed before buying it?

    Thanks!
     
  2. RealSEOMarket

    RealSEOMarket Newbie

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    You can not unless you analyze backlinks
     
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    You can tell if it was potentially abused just by looking at backlink profile and making an informed guess. Spam-ass links with ridiculous anchor text profiles are pretty easy to spot.
     
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    Yeah as far as I know there is no special tool or 100% sure way to know if the site has been de-indexed. You'll of course get a feel for it with experience but check for those big NO-NO signals :

    1) domain has bad backlink profile (just blog comments for example), over optimized anchor text
    2) domain is a long EMD (which is another internet marketer had it before you, and dropped it cause it got penalized)
    3) domain has had multiple drops in the last years (meaning guys like you picking it up and seeing its deindexed, then dropping it) use whoisdomaintools dot net
    4) domain has spammy content, gibberish content or content that sounds like has been put up by someone who knows about backlinking and SEO, for example online marketing (use archive.org)
    5) just learned about this one.... projecthoneypot.org has a database of websites who have a history spamming blog comments
    6) you could try an see if the site is banned by akismet.. try to post on blogs with the url and if it wont post it means the site is banned by akismet
     
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    innovalist Supreme Member Premium Member

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    Check for thousands of backlinks yet very little traffic.

    You can use ahrefs to check the links to be sure. Another tell tale sign is sudden drop in traffic which you can sometimes see using semrush.

    Hope that helps!
     
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    Most penalties expire after 3 months. I would not worry too much about it, but due diligence for backlinks should be conducted, carefully.
     
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    Good point here, you can tell that the links are spam easily, thus you can speculate whether the domain you are going to buy is good or not
     
  9. iglow

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    ahrefs + archive.org but u never know
     
  10. FinalBoss

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    When you wrote "most penalties", does this include Panda and/or Penguin? I am kind of confused by your comment as you wrote to check the backlink profile carefully so I guess you do not think that at least a Penguin penalty would not expire, right?
     
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    Neither Penguin nor Panda are penalties. They are algorithm changes that apply to all sites.
     
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    To some, Penguin, Panda, Chipmunk, and Squirtle, were all penalties. ;)
     
  13. FinalBoss

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    Got it, thank you! I know you have manual penalties whenever someone from Google checks your website but what are algo-related penalties then if Penguin nor Panda are not penalties then. Would you please give us an example?

    My guess then would be that someone is sending 100K of 1 type of backlinks in like 24h max using only 1 anchor and bam the following days/weeks one is out of the top 100 (at least for 3 months or forever?). While this happens Google did not specify that they rolled out Penguin or Panda. Is this guess from my part what you would call an penalty then please?
     
  14. drogon

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    If backlinks profile shows links from deindexed blogs (blog networks) then chances are its got a penguin penalty that will almost never go away. Spam links like blog comments etc are actually not the problem unless it is really excessive.

    Panda penalty, well no way of knowing. There is -50, -100 etc etc penalties that may or may not expire but even if they expire, the domain is still 'tainted' and would be alot easier to rank a brand new 'clean' domain.

    Personally i would say its a risk assessment / judgement call on your part and make sure you are not paying alot for the domain in case worst case you got to throw it away.
     
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    look at the backlink profile of domain thru ahrefs. If the domain is having links from web2.0s/wikis/article etc then dont buy it... if it has links from legit sites then get it without a double thought.
     
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    What I do to see if a site has been penalized is put it in SEMrush, it will show a chart of organic search traffic, if it looks like it's fallen off a cliff you know it's been hit unless it had a heap of powerful links (high pr homepage) holding up the rankings that were removed...you can check for lost links in Ahrefs....the easiest way to verify a legit aged domain is put it in the wayback machine and visit the site, does it look like a legit site? how many times was it crawled by wayback? the more the better....doing this you'll easily be able to tell if it's legit or not....
     
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    web.archive
    to view past website appereance