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Been trying to get a SEO job

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Clutterbuck, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. Clutterbuck

    Clutterbuck Regular Member

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    With my online income taking a bit of a drop (it was mostly cookie stuffing) i have been trying to get a job working for a company doing their SEO work. (not as a consultant)

    And because my "CV" does not show the experience I'm getting turned down left right and center. Just got off the phone with one recruitment consultant showed him some of the sites i am ranking for, he then said as i havent worked with someone to learn from i'm not fit for the job.

    He was the only one i have spoken to. I have had a tonne of rejection emails though, so i am guessing they are for the same reason.

    Funny thing is, wether its big headed of me but i do feel i know a lot more than most of the people they would imploy anyway thanks to places like here.

    :angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire
     
  2. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Why get a job? F that - just advertise on some classifieds sites or go door knocking at local businesses. If you've got a professional looking "company" site and a phone number you should be able to get some easy business and get paid more than any crappy company would employ you for.
     
  3. jstover77

    jstover77 Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Ya seriously. Why would you want to get a job with some shitty company, when you could make way more doing it yourself? If you are good at what you do, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  4. blackmamba456

    blackmamba456 Junior Member

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    I'm 20, have been applying to SEO jobs, I had some part time experience in a web design company so that has helped.

    I just applied for a job and got an interview, they seemed very impressed.

    I don't think I'm an expert at getting a job, but here's what I do. I use monster.co.uk and have an account with a CV and a cover letter specifically for SEO. I have made these public and usually get a call from a recruitment agency at least once a week.

    I've also got a saved search for all SEO jobs in the UK marked as 'entry level' jobs, I've taken the RSS feed for it and whenever a new job I like appears in my reader I just press a few buttons and my saved CV and letter is sent.

    To be honest though most of these jobs are advertised by recruitment agencies who quite frankly are a poor judge of just how good a person is at SEO, they ask vague questions over the phone and don't necessarily understand the answers you give them.

    This interview I just got was from me personally search for UK SEO agencies and I applied for a position directly through their site. It was an entry level type job. I don't think I'd have gotten interviewed if it wasn't for the fact I'd told the guy over the phone about some scripts I've built that scrape the web for relevant SEO data and shows me easy to rank for profitable niches. I think he was really impressed by that.

    I guess my humble advice is to try to talk to SEO agencies direct, even if they're not hiring and if they are, aim for low entry level jobs or ones that suggest some training will be involved. And make sure you have something that can really impress them, rankings are difficult to impress with unless you have some really great ones but SEO tools and scripts you've perhaps built can be a really impressive substitute.
     
  5. asoduk

    asoduk Registered Member

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    if you want a real job you need to show that you have the skills. i had the same problem a few years ago where I knew a lot of SEO stuff, but didn't know how to put it in my resume. working with a resume pro, i was able to get it up to par and realize that its okay to put industry specific words and accomplishments in your CV/resume.
    use facts and figures to show that you bring results, not just sentences and bullet points that you know about something.
    sure, when you get to the job you'll have to figure out how their particular system works, but showing that you have diverse background experiences and have driven results is what gets you in the door.
     
  6. squelsh

    squelsh Regular Member

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    I've worked for a very big SEO agency and most people there know sweet fuck all.
     
  7. johnwho

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    Freelancing is my bread and butter on the Internet. I suggest you put your SEO services in your blog and drive traffic to it via article marketing.

    Its better to target small business owner than BIG SEO companies..
     
  8. cooolr

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    People hire other people to stuff their pockets with even more money. Don't get hired.
    Get to the top.
     
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  9. LHaskins

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    Have you considered a SEO Certification?
     
  10. Blueprint

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    there are sooo many valid comments here!

    I've worked in SEO for my entire employment and it's full of total noobs that don't know shit! I sware, agencies are also total crap, the bigger ones are total rubbish, some clients paying £2k a month for a few excel spreadsheets, it's a shocker!

    Just lie on your CV if you REALLY want a job! Fuck it, most don't even know or check - In my previous role some woman was "Head of Search" and knew absolutely NOTHING about PPC or SEO, yet she was on £75k! It's all bullshit, also listen to the other guys on here, I REALLY wanna quit my day job, it takes up all my time, but I feel dependent on a company now :( I've learned from this -and it's always best not to be under someone elses rule as technically they're buying your life! 8 and 1/2 hours a day + of my day doing shit to make someone else money (in between doing my own things when I can lol) UNCAP your potential earnings rather than line someone elses pockets...
     
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  11. jimbo2087

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    I agree with everyone else - dont get a job.

    I have recently started freelance SEOing - just head to a freelance site and bid for a project. Most people on their are from the far east and lack English skills so you have a distinct advantage from the start.

    The rates may seem quite low, this is mainly because you are in competition with eastern workers, but you will probably still earn more than you would working for a company.
     
  12. Clutterbuck

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    hey guys, thanks for all that. i think i had a bad day and things are just getting on top of me as of late.

    I am in the process of redoing my seo site and slowly ranking the site for 3 keywords.
    I would rather be self employed but if things get too much i will have to line someone else pocket to keep me going.

    If these people who were getting £75K a year, then surely they would know how to make much more by themselves??
    This is something i really want to drill to these recruitment companies. I had a feeling they knew fuck all.

    I might have to edit my CV and lie to get somewhere if needs be.

    I'll offer my services to DP and warrior forum to get started.
     
  13. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    If you've ever worked in a big corporate firm you will soon realise there are plenty of people who slip through the net and earn 50k+

    All about who you know, not what you know ;)