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been crawling for 2 weeks. not a single good domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nonai, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. nonai

    nonai Power Member

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    been crawling every high authority site known to man for the past 2 weeks. not a single good expired domain. 2 problems: either not enough referring domains, or spammed backlinks.

    it seems that everybody else is a step ahead of me. meaning everybody already did the same thing I am doing months ago so they already found and registered all the good domains.

    I need to do something different. something nobody else has thought about. But I dont know what. Any ideas? I am not looking to be spoon fed. just need a little hint. you can pm me if you dont want it to be public.
     
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    You are right, Skyrocketseo tell this thing to public and now everybody scraping these high PR sites for domains. :D Soon all these sites have 0 external broken link.
     
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  3. Stacked4Life

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    Time to find other ways of getting domains soon. :)
     
  4. Gyuman82

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    Maybe you need to lower your standards.

    Just because a domain doesn't have links from CNN and WhiteHouse.gov doesn't mean that you can't turn an ROI on it.
     
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    You're going way too broad.

    I made the same mistake early on. Most of the top sites have been scraped thoroughly so you'll probably scrape thousands of pages and not find a single domain.

    You need to narrow down to specific KWs, niches, languages, etc.
     
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    I said this a few times already. Guys, start buying non-expired domains, contact owners, ask them to sell sites to you. You need more than $25 for these domains though. So, if you're cheap you're out of luck

    P.S. Welcome back nonai, W130SN missed you
     
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  7. nonai

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    I find domains that have like 18 d0follow referring domains on a regular basis. But I dont know how effective that will be. I like to see 50+ referring domains. would it be effective if I make my PBN with these domains that have like 18 d0follow backlinks?
    The way I see it, it costs exactly the same amount of time and money to manage a domain with 50+ referring backlinks. it costs the same in content, it costs the same in hosting. so why waste time with a domain that has like 18 backlinks?

    disclaimer: of course, this is all assuming the backlinks are not spam.
     
  8. Gyuman82

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    You make the noob mistake by sticking to some standard metric (ie minimum 50+ domains blah blah blah) or some stupid formula.

    Just look at each domain and based on the price ask yourself "Will this return a positive ROI?". If yes, then buy it.

    When you're only paying like $26 or somethin for a cheapo domain, you don't have to have an epic backlink profile to get a positive return on your investment.
     
  9. rogerke

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    You probably found a lot of great domains, but didn't realize it. You're making the stupid mistake of wanting to have "X" amount of referring domains, but you don't realize a single great backlink might be worth more than 100's of worthless links.

    A lot of ref. domains/backlinks inflate crappy metrics like DA and since a lot of people cling on them those domains are gone the second they come out of quarantaine. So using your MO, it's no suprise you didn't find any "good" domains.
     
  10. nonai

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    I dont know what you mean by "will it return a positive ROI"
    The question I ask myself is "will it help me rank or is it going to be a waste of my time and money?" and I dont know the answer to that.
     
  11. Gyuman82

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    Well that's where experience and hard work comes into play. The only way you'll learn the answer to that question is by split testing.

    You may burn through some cash learning how to identify the good from the bad, but that's what separates the men from the boys.
     
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    I can't find if this has already been posted, but what tool are you using for finding the domains? My comp. has started crawling for about 8 hours, so far found 7 high authority expired domains and 30 average domains.

    Also you need to look at the seed link you're feeding your crawler with.
     
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    i dont agree there is still plenty to fish but you gotta pick the spot wisely.
     
  14. SteveWaller

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    I'm going to side with many of the other members and say that you need to think again about the way that you evaluate a domain - having 18 referring domains can be just as good as having 50 because these two numbers tell you nothing about the types of backlink, the authority of those backlinks, and the relevancy of those backlinks (this last one is something that people often overlook). Heck, a domain with 5 referring domains can be absolutely fine to use if those backlinks are a) likely to stick, b) relevant to your money site and c) on suitably authoritative sites.

    As for authority - it needn't be absolute authority, but authority in relation to the industry or location. A link from delawareonline.com may seem like it's not that high on the authority front (it's only PR5), but for someone doing local SEO in Delaware, it is absolutely an authority.