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Been away... talk to me about SEO in 2017

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by illfounded21, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. illfounded21

    illfounded21 Senior Member

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    I haven't been properly involved with the BHW community in a couple of years...

    Equally, I'm out of touch with what works and what doesn't in 2017. So talk to me about what works nowadays.

    I have an established site that is currently 9th. Without knowing anything about the site context, what key approaches would you suggest?

    I imagine building your own contextual PBN'a is probably a safe bet, but outside of that... any thoughts?

    Cheers,
    Illfounded
     
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    back2form Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    A New Gorilla Update has just arrived - Do you aware about it ? Lets Discuss
     
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    Pbns, expired web 2.0, manual outreach, buying links. Quality over quantity. Dont over optimise. Not much has changed really if you literally mean two years.
     
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  4. MisterF

    MisterF Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    According to a lot of people;
    A) SEO is dead

    B) PBNs do not work

    C) She was not 12, your honour.
     
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  5. illfounded21

    illfounded21 Senior Member

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    No idea? I was active around penguin/panda - and am aware of hummingbird.
     
  6. illfounded21

    illfounded21 Senior Member

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    Cheers. Do web 2.0s even get indexed or count a sample DF nowadays?
     
  7. illfounded21

    illfounded21 Senior Member

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    Same old same old then. Better fire up PPC
     
  8. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    To be frank. If you want to rank something decent, then it's either guest posts or PBNs. Web 2.0s won't help you much. Good for diversity and some slight firepower, but apart of that, it's really just PBNs or guest posts. Or some really expensive links on well known sites. Rest is not worth the bother at all.
     
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  9. JasonBlackHAT

    JasonBlackHAT Registered Member

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    LOL! He was trolling you. That thing called "Gorilla update" was just an april fools post of Ahrefs.
     
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    What ?

    April Fool post of Ahrefs ? No he is Completely Wrong, OP




    Right one : April fool post of thehoth.com

    here :) : https://www.thehoth.com/blog/google-update-gorilla/
     
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    JasonBlackHAT Registered Member

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    back2form Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    That's okay, But never repeat this mistake again :)
     
  13. JasonBlackHAT

    JasonBlackHAT Registered Member

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    Noted! ;)
     
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    Watch out for updates named after people. They may or may not be real according to certain mainstream SEO services. :rolleyes:
     
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    Wow, this pretty much sums it! :D

    Web 2.0 works for weak keywords, like under 20 kw difficulty
     
  16. illfounded21

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    Yeah, kind of what I expected. All others for diversity.

    Had any good experience with PBNs or guest posts on here recently? (Affiliated or not)
     
  17. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Marketplace has become a bit toxic lately. There were a few huge "dramas" about reselling and deindexing lately. I can vouch for maybe a couple PBN services. And never used any for guest posts, I do my own outreach.
     
  18. PlayerNumber1

    PlayerNumber1 Newbie

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    This is damn confusing....
    how to guides and videos are out of date
    how can you trust anybody's techniques anyway
    google seem to be fucking ninja's after all the algo updates
    some people say pbn's are a quick way to get hit by google, others say they still work -- either way sounds damn risky

    dont want to risk my money site (alot of time and effort has gone into it!) - but i want to rank it in the most effective way
     
  19. DaedalusOpus

    DaedalusOpus Newbie

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    I keep hearing mixed guidance around PBNs. Sorry for the n00b question but is there a consensus on this site on PBNs?
     
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  20. Nargil

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    They work perfectly fine if you know what you are doing. /thread
     
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